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【键盘侠】字母哥妥妥卫冕MVP?|或许老詹还有一点希望

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Giannis Antetokoumpo over 45 games has averaged 30/13/6/1/1 on 60.8 TS% in only 30.7 MPG. Has he already locked in his second straight MVP?

Its mind blowing to see the numbers he has been putting up in basically 3 quarters a night. The Bucks have consistently been the best team in the NBA this season so far being led by Giannis, and with a 42-7 record are on pace to win 70 GAMES, easily secure the 1st seed in the east, and likely lock in home court advantage throughout the playoffs. Meanwhile Giannis himself has been dominating, putting up a career high in PTS and a career best 31.6% from 3 on 5.0 3PA.

字母哥这赛季出场超过45场,场均出战只有30.7分钟,却能贡献30分13板6助1断1帽,真实命中率有60.8%。难道他已经连续第二年锁定了MVP?

平均每晚打了还不到3节时间,就能贡献出这种数据,这真是很惊人了。雄鹿本赛季在字母哥的带领下也一直稳定在联盟最强队的水准,目前42胜7负(战胜鹈鹕之前)的他们正处于一个冲刺70胜的轨道上。他们应该可以轻松确立东部第一,而且很可能在整个季后赛都有主场优势。与此同时,字母哥自己也一直都很有统治力,贡献了生涯同期最高的得分和生涯最高的三分命中率31.6%,场均出手三分5.03个。

IMO Harden has almost completely shot himself out of the MVP race with his play as of late, Lebron has been great but with AD playing next to him I don't think he'll receive it either. Mavs wont win enough for Luka to get any real attention and the only other player I can think of is Jokic, but as great as he has been it still doesn't compare to the numbers and impact Giannis has had.

我觉得就哈登近期的表现来说,他几乎是把自己投出了MVP竞争行列。詹姆斯这赛季打得不错,不过他身边有戴维斯,我觉得他也拿不了MVP。独行侠的战绩还不够出色,东契奇还得不到真正的关注。我唯一能想到的其他人就只有约基奇了,可他尽管很有实力,但是他的数据和影响力还是和字母哥没法比。

So has the Greek Freak already locked in back to back MVPs? It seems to be a one man race headed into the ASG but anything can happen I suppose

所以字母哥这已经是要稳稳地连着两个赛季当选MVP了吗?马上就要进入全明星休赛期了,貌似MVP的竞争就是一场的独角戏,不过呢,一切皆有可能。

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[–]Rockets screwt 784 指標 19小時前

To me, there's not even another player in the running other than Giannis.

火箭球迷:我觉得吧,在MVP的角逐中,找不到第二个可以和字母哥比拼的了。

[–]Celtics avelak 23 指標 17小時前

Yeah I was kinda stanning Harden when he was averaging close to 40 (and thought he was MVP last year)... But now his season is worse than last year, and Giannis is better than last year, so it's an absolute no-brainer unanimous vote in my mind

凯尔特人球迷:是啊,哈登之前场均得分迫近40的时候,我还有点喜欢他(我觉得上赛季MVP是他的)……不过现在看来,他这个赛季的表现还不如上赛季,而字母哥的表现强于上赛季,所以在我心中,字母哥拿MVP是绝对的人心所向。

[–]Raptors veebs7 338 指標 19小時前

Agreed. I would have made an argument for Harden a while ago, but now it’s not even close

猛龙球迷:同意。要是在早些时候,我还觉得哈登有说服力,不过现在差得远了

[–]ShadowClawz 191 指標 19小時前

That streak of bad 3pt shooting made Giannis the second unanimous

哈登之前那一波连续的三分手冷将让字母哥成为第二个全票MVP

[–][MIA] Jimmy Butler qwerty7990 188 指標 17小時前

Every time I hear about unanimous MVPs I can't help but think back to how much better LeBron James was in 2012-13, yet still didn't get it. Steph 100% deserves it, and if Giannis gets it this year, he will have also deserved it assuming he keeps up this level of play. But Bron 100% deserved to be the first unanimous MVP that year.

热火球迷:每次我听到全票MVP的时候,就忍不住会想起,12/13赛季的詹姆斯明明比其他人强那么多,可他依然没有拿到全票。库里全票当选100%是应该的,要是字母哥这赛季也全票当选,那也没毛病,前提是他得继续这种表现。不过老詹当年就该是第一个全票MVP。

[–][TOR] Hakeem Olajuwon foreverapanda 183 指標 17小時前

What do you mean? It was totally reasonable to vote for Carmelo Anthony that year.

He outscored Lebron by 1.9 ppg and only played 9 fewer games than Lebron. To top it off, he almost beat Lebron in rebounds and more than a third of Brons assists. And his team only won 12 fewer games. And damn it, he may not have been DPOY level like Lebron that year, but he tried his best.

Obvious sarcasm, Melo had a great year, but Lebron that year was bonkers. Dude who voted for Melo should have been banned from voting for life, especially cause he said he voted Melo because it was obvious that Lebron would win.

猛龙球迷:你啥意思?安东尼13年拿到一张首选票也是完全合理的。

他的场均得分(28.7分)比老詹(26.8分)高1.9分,而且出战场次也只比老詹少了9场。除此之外,他的篮板也不比老詹差多少,而且助攻数也比老詹的三分之一多。并且当赛季掘金的赢球场次也只比热火少12场。去特么的,或许安东尼那赛季没有老詹那种DPOY级别的防守,不过他也努力了。

真是讽刺啊,甜瓜那赛季打得确实蛮好,不过老詹可是炸裂啊。那个把首选票投给甜瓜的哥们儿就该终生禁止投票,因为他说他觉得老詹明显会拿MVP,所以才把首选票给了安东尼。

[–]Bucks Kobe_AYEEEEE 22 指標 16小時前

You actually had me going for a second there lol

雄鹿球迷:你还真把我一度搞蒙了,哈哈哈

[–][LAL] Brian Cook OrnsteinBagels 16 指標 16小時前

You could say the same thing about several prior MVP’s. Shaq comes to mind for me but I’m sure Jordan had at least one season like that, and players before him. Honestly all of the seasons where they’re a vote or two away from unanimous should be held in the same regard as Steph’s.

湖人球迷:这种话也可以放到以前的几个MVP身上。我想到了奥尼尔,不过我相信乔丹至少有一个赛季也该全票当选的,还有他之前的。说真的,那些离全票当选只差一两票的人应该归到库里一类。

[–][CLE] Cedi Osman llewellynjean 67 指標 19小時前

Yea, Giannis is ahead by a country mile.

Still, there a small, but non-zero chance that if the Lakers get hot (like 25-5 over their last 30 games) there could be some LeBron buzz.

Media needs to give Giannis a foil to make the race seem closer than it is and LeBron would be the obvious candidate

骑士球迷:没错,字母哥现在已经领先很多了。

不过要是湖人后半程状态大热(就像之前30场25胜5负一样)的话,那詹姆斯也会有些呼声的。

媒体还得给字母哥浇点冷水,这样才能让竞争差距看起来小一点,老詹才能成为明显的候选人。

[–][CLE] Eric Snow ggghhhhhh 24 指標 16小時前

I don't think that would be enough. I think the Bucks would have to fall off PLUS the Lakers would have to get extremely hot. If Bucks and Lakers both end up going, say, 66-16, then there would be an argument at least. Giannis probably still wins in a close race in that case.

Plus, for that to happen the Lakers would have to go 29-5 and the Bucks would have to go 24-9. That feels unlikely, especially as it feels like the Lakers have stopped giving max defensive effort on a nightly basis.

Budenholzer turns his teams into regular-season machines, dating back to the Hawks. I'm skeptical about the Bucks in the playoffs, but this team plays hard every night, has a killer offensive and defensive system, and doesn't take nights off.

骑士球迷:我觉得这还不够。不光要雄鹿后半程犯迷糊,湖人也得拿出极其火热的状态。这么说吧,要是雄鹿和湖人最后都是66胜16负,那至少还有的一拼。即便那样,字母哥或许还是会险胜。

而且,那还得湖人后半程29胜5负,雄鹿24胜9负才行。感觉不大可能,因为我感觉湖人现在每晚已经没有尽全力去防守了。

布登霍尔泽把自己的球队都调教成了常规赛机器,往前可以追溯到老鹰。对于雄鹿的季后赛前景我是持怀疑态度的,不过这个队伍每场比赛都很拼,进攻防守都很有杀伤,不会犯浑。

[–]Minneapolis Lakers DouglassFunny 34 指標 16小時前

Giannis is the MVP in my opinion but the Lakers would fall off a cliff without Lebron.

湖人球迷:我觉得字母哥是MVP,可是要是没有老詹的话,湖人会断崖式下滑

[–]llibcram 2 指標 17小時前

Dame?

利拉德呢?

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 40 指標 16小時前

MVP contender that’s not even an 8 seed, nice

湖人球迷:MVP竞争者的球队连西部第八都不是,厉害了

[–]Heat masterRoshi9 7 指標 14小時前

Dame has certainly been playing well enough, but with the discrepancy in team success I think you’re right

热火球迷:利拉德最近的表现肯定是足够好的,不过球队表现差太多,所以我觉得楼上说得没毛病。

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[–]Rockets LeBronBlackedAyesha 343 指標 19小時前

Yes, he’s lapped everyone. The clearest MVP since 2015-16 Curry imo.

火箭球迷:是的,字母哥领先了一大截。我觉得他是自15/16赛季之后最明显的MVP

[–]Timberwolves X-iStheGr8estWRapper 157 指標 18小時前

Playing devils advocate here.

Lets say for arguments sake, Lillard manages to drag his team to the 6-7 seed (ik 7 games is a lot to come back from) while maintaining this absurd streak he’s been on.

Does he get some votes for dragging them into the playoffs?

森林狼球迷:那我要杠一下。假如利拉德设法拖着开拓者到了西部第六第七位,同时还能持续近期这种超神表现的话,他会得到一些选票吗?

[–]Nets McShpoochen 147 指標 18小時前

Yes but will ultimately come up short which is understandable

篮网球迷:当然会,不过最后还是会差一口气,这也是能理解的。

[–]Mavericks humax02 18 指標 17小時前

That wont happen 100%.Lillard is having a run same like how Harden and Luka had.Giannis is consistent in the whole season,he will get it 100%.

独行侠球迷:他100%不会得到选票的。利拉德这一波强势发挥与之前的哈登、东契奇一样,而字母哥整个赛季都是稳定这种表现,他会全票当选的。

[–]Trail Blazers pdxbball1717 6 指標 17小時前

Luka didn’t have a run where he averaged 48 points and 11 assists.

开拓者球迷:东契奇可没有过场均48分11助的连场爆种。

[–]Mavericks DirkNowitzkisWife 8 指標 16小時前

I’m nervous watching Lillard that he’s playing his way onto all NBA 1st team, and knocking Luka off.

独行侠球迷:利拉德要是再这么抢眼,我担心他会打进赛季最佳阵一阵,把东契奇挤掉。

[–]Classics22 7 指標 14小時前

Luka's health is going to sink him more than anything. If he ends up only playing 60 games Dame will take it

东契奇最致命的还是他的健康。要是他这赛季只打60场,那利拉德肯定会挤掉他的。

[–]Hawks KredditH 7 指標 17小時前

Nope. MVPs are almost always one or two seeds and on top of that Giannis is literally averaging way more points per minute, has been more efficient and is miles above him on defense while winning way more games

老鹰球迷:利拉德是没希望的。MVP所在的球队一般都是排名前两位,而且字母哥每分钟的得分要超出太多了,他一直都更高效,赢球场次超出一大截的同时,防守也甩开很多。

[–][MIA] Jimmy Butler qwerty7990 5 指標 17小時前

If dame closed the rest of the season averaging 45ppg, he'd probably win MVP. Only reason Harden didnt with his ridiculous scoring is because his playstyle is ridiculously unpopular

热火球迷:要是利拉德后半程场均45分,那他也许能拿MVP。哈登得分这么强,可他还是拿不到MVP,就是因为他的打法不大受欢迎。

[–]Hawks KredditH 142 指標 17小時前

How is this upvoted? This is just false regarding why harden didn’t win. Giannis had one of the best regular seasons of all-time while winning way more games, that’s why harden didn’t win MVP.

老鹰球迷:你这都有点点赞?哈登拿不到MVP,根本就不是因为楼上说的。字母哥不但打出了史上最强的常规赛表现之一,带队赢球的场次还多得多,这才是哈登不能拿MVP的原因。

[–][MIA] Jimmy Butler qwerty7990 -2 指標 16小時前

Because Harden averaged 35 ppg and if a player did that while playing watchable basketball, it'd win MVP every time

热火球迷:可哈登场均35分啊,要是有球员打出这种表现还能打出观赏性的篮球,那绝对能拿MVP。

[–]76ers LeveonNumber1 119 指標 16小時前

Kobe disagrees from the grave.

76人球迷:科比从坟墓里表示反对

[–]NBA Money282 10 指標 14小時前

God this still hurts to read.

天,现在看到这个还是难受

[–]Jazz polynomials 17 指標 15小時前

Kobe was extremely watchable though.

爵士球迷:不过科比当年打得可是极具观赏性的

[–]Grizzlies WolvesArrow 66 指標 15小時前

That's his point. Kobe averaged 35 in an entertaining fashion in 05 and 06 and didn't win MVP.

灰熊球迷:说到点子上了。科比05/06赛季场均35分,打得也好看,还是没拿到MVP。

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[–][LAL] Marcelo Huertas henstobs11 22 指標 19小時前

Yes. It's just a battle for runner up.

湖人球迷:没错,其他人都是争第二

[–]Bulls wowanotherburner 156 指標 19小時前

He's an easy pick at this point. But calling it locked in with half the season left is stupid.

公牛球迷:都这时候了,选字母哥不是明摆着的嘛。不过这才半个赛季就说他稳拿,还是很蠢。

[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 80 指標 19小時前

The only thing that I can see stopping it is a serious injury.

雄鹿球迷:我觉得唯一能阻止他拿MVP的,就是重伤。

[–]Pelicans stebus88 7 指標 19小時前

Barring a catastrophe, it’s almost certainly going to Giannis. Bron and Harden are in the discussion but I think they would have to do something ridiculously special over the rest of the season to win it.

鹈鹕球迷:假如没有重大伤病,那几乎就是字母哥的囊中之物了。老詹和哈登也能说说,不过他们后半程必须得打出极其超凡的表现才能拼得过字母哥

[–]Lakers PlayedLikeADiddle 58 指標 19小時前

Unless he gets injured and another player like Dame continues to average 40 for thr rest of the season then it's a lock fo Giannis

湖人球迷:除非字母哥受伤,要么后半程冒出个利拉德这种场均40分的球员,不然MVP就是字母哥锁定了。

[–]Chime509 23 指標 18小時前

Giannis gets hurt, the Blazers claw back to a 6 or higher seed, AND Dame scores 40+ in every game. None of those things are likely to happen.

那不但得字母哥受伤,开拓者还得爬到至少西部第六,而且利拉德场场40+。这三者都是不现实的。

[–]Raptors SourceCodeSeller 13 指標 18小時前

If the blazers get higher then 6 seed and dame averages 40 a game he could very well get it

猛龙球迷:要是开拓者的排名最后超过了西部第六,利拉德场均40,那他还真很可能干过字母哥

[–]Celtics avelak 8 指標 16小時前

Eh, Harden basically did that last year and lost to Giannis... And Giannis is even better this year

凯尔特人球迷:呃,这不就是上赛季的哈登嘛,可他还是输给了字母哥……而且字母哥这赛季的表现比上赛季还要好

[–][UTA] Rudy Gobert GobertIsMyDaddy 2 指標 8小時前

Yeah, but people like Dame.

爵士球迷:是这个理,可是大家都喜欢利拉德啊

[–]Pistons Venoooooooooooooooom 47 指標 18小時前

Dame + successful playoff push = 2nd place in MVP voting

活塞球迷:利拉德+成功冲进季后赛=MVP投票第二

[–]incognegromode86 24 指標 18小時前

I came here to say dame. I think he is playing better basketball than everybody right now

我特意来说说利拉德,我觉得他如今的表现比其他人都好

[–]Pistons Venoooooooooooooooom 1 指標 16小時前

I know, everyone seems to have been brainwashed from the fact that he has two 60 pieces in this season alone. If his team was a little better, he’d probably be up there with Giannis in the popular vote.

活塞球迷:我知道,大家都有点被他这赛季的两场60+神作洗脑了。要是他的球队成绩再好点,那他也许还真能和字母哥掰掰手腕。

[–]baudinl 9 指標 18小時前

He is very obviously the most valuable player, but the MVP award is a much more narrative-based award. For that reason, Lillard might have a case if he keeps playing well and Blazers get into the playoffs with a good seed.

很明显,字母哥就是最有价值球员,不过MVP奖项非常看重大众舆论。正因如此,利拉德要是继续这种疯狂,且开拓者以不错的名次杀进季后赛,那利拉德或许还真有机会。

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[–]Lakers CmonTouchIt 3 指標 15小時前

God damn, in only 30 fucking mins, not to mention his defensive numbers...

Massive lebron fan but Giannis is making magic in Milwaukee, I really don't think you can give it to anyone else. He really is doing it all, in less minutes than anyone else....

湖人球迷:我尼玛,场均就打特么30分钟,就这还没算他那些防守数据……

我是老詹铁粉,不过字母哥在雄鹿的表现这是在缔造神奇,我真觉得这个奖项不能给其他人。

[–]KentaviusCaldwelPoop 3 指標 14小時前

Giannis isn't doing anything historic as Steph 2016 - leading the league in layup% and 3 pt % on highest volume, 73-9, leading in steals, scoring leader, etc.. From an offensive standpoint there are like 5 other players that are on par with Giannis but their team is so much worse without them.

字母哥的表现可没15/16赛季的库里那么划时代——上篮命中率和三分命中率都是联盟最高、出手数也是最多,球队73胜9负,抢断、得分等都是第一……

就进攻端表现来看,这赛季还有五个人和字母哥是一个水准的,而且要是没有这五个人,那他们的球队就烂不少。

[–]Thunder moneybooy 7 指標 19小時前

LeBron has an argument but only if the Lakers have the best record

雷霆球迷:只有湖人拿下联盟最佳战绩,老詹才有拿MVP的说服力

[–]Classics 22 31 指標 19小時前

Lebron is scoring much much worse, rebounding much worse, winning less, and is a significantly worse defender as well. EVen if they somehow end up with a little better record than the Bucks the only thing he's doing better on a basketball floor right now is passing, I have no idea how he'd win it.

比起字母哥,詹姆斯的得分、篮板都差很多,胜场更少,而且防守端也比字母哥差很多。即便湖人最后的战绩比雄鹿好那么一点点,老詹这赛季唯一比字母哥强的也只有传球,我是不知道他凭啥拿MVP

[–]Cavaliers kmillz1 2 指標 14小時前

He's definitely leading but I'm kind of surprised more people aren't putting LeBron in the conversation. The Lakers have the 2nd best record and he is leading the league in assists while still scoring 25 PPG. It seems like every year he doesn't win its because of team record, but his team has a very good record this year.

骑士球迷:字母哥确实是领先很多,可我到有点奇怪了,怎么有那么多人甚至都不觉得老詹应该进入讨论之列。湖人的战绩联盟第二,而老詹场均25分的同时还是联盟助攻王。貌似以前每次老詹都是因为球队战绩拿不到MVP,可是这个赛季湖人的战绩却是非常好啊

[–][HOU] James Harden tmmymrtn 1 指標 11小時前

Thank you for mentioning Lebron. Everybody's saying Giannis by a mile, or Giannis and it's not even close. Lebron is having an incredible season and to not even consider him an MVP contender is disrespectful.

火箭球迷:感谢你为老詹说话。人人都说“字母哥领先一大截”、“字母哥就是MVP,其他人没得比”。可老詹这赛季打得非常出色啊,居然还不把他当做是MVP竞争者?太不尊重人了吧

[–]Cavaliers kmillz1 3 指標 10小時前

I was on team Harden til his recent slump but LeBron absolutely should be in the conversation.

骑士球迷:在哈登最近一波低迷之前,我是支持他的。不过老詹肯定是不该被忽视的。

[–]Bucks BeHereNow91 7 指標 15小時前

What happened to Harden? Seems like he was averaging 40ppg then just stopped making headlines.

雄鹿球迷:哈登是咋了?貌似他之前一直是场均40分,然后突然就没头条了

[–]Suns peanutdakidnappa 21 指標 15小時前

Major shooting slump then some minor injuries, had probably his worst month over the past 2 seasons. Rockets also weren’t doing very good during that stretch

太阳球迷:主要是手感冰凉,然后还有点小伤,一月份的他或许打出了最近两年最差的单月表现。而且火箭在此期间的表现也不大好。

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编译:云长刮个痧

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