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[Post Game Thread] The Philadelphia 76ers (30-17) defeat the Los Angeles Lakers (36-10), 108-91.

【赛后帖】费城76人(30胜17负)今天在主场以108-91轻取洛杉矶湖人(36胜10负)。

哈里斯29分8篮板,霍福德16分6篮板,西蒙斯28分10篮板8助攻4断,内托9分3助攻,科克马兹9分;詹姆斯29分7篮板8助攻8失误,戴维斯31分7篮板,霍华德2分5篮板,丹尼-格林2分5篮板,布拉德利7分,波普7分。

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[–]jaysphan128 475 指標 4小時前

lakers should be fine in the playoffs as long as they dont play any teams that have a good wing player

湖人打季后赛应该没事的,只要他们不打那些有出色侧翼的球队就行。

[–]Bucks ExistingNail 28 指標 4小時前

James Harden's ears perk up

雄鹿球迷:哈登正竖着耳朵听呢

[–]Lakers HaughtyRangers 75 指標 4小時前

I’ve been downvoted again and again saying that the clippers have 2 of the best wing players. We are fucked against them.

湖人球迷:之前我说快船有两个顶级侧翼的时候还总是被踩。碰上他们我湖就嗝屁

[–]NBA urfaselol 28 指標 4小時前

Tuesday will tell us a lot. It's the clippers without PG again. If the Lakers lose that game. Whew

所以下周三(湖人打快船)的比赛很重要。又是没有乔治的快船。要是湖人输掉这场比赛,那…………

[–]NBA WakandaFist 20 指標 4小時前

Clips already proved they can beat them even without George

快船已经证明了他们可以在没有乔治的时候战胜湖人

[–]Lakers mmm1010 91 指標 4小時前

Lakers getting dominated by teams with length

Celtics, raptors, bucks and now Philly

All eastern teams so not much of a worry in playoffs but do need to make moves this trade period to win a ring

湖人球迷:我湖碰上有高度有臂展的球队就会被支配。

凯尔特人人、猛龙、雄鹿,现在又是费城

东部强队把我们虐了个遍。倒不必太担心季后赛,不过必须得在这个交易期采取点动作,不然怎么争冠

[–]summersoulxdd 47 指標 4小時前*

Don't forget Kawhi's length

Nah but for real big part of why Lakers are losing these because all of them have a capable LeBron defender. Simmons, Giannis, Kawhi, Siakam, Tatum (?)

可别忘了小卡的高度和臂展。

不过说真的,湖人碰上这些球队就输球的重要原因在于,他们都有能防老詹的人。西蒙斯、字母哥、小卡、西亚卡姆、塔图姆?

[–]Celtics lewlkewl 28 指標 4小時前

The problem isn't that they have a capable lebron defender, it's that the lakers don't have a capable (all those you guys mentioned) defender. ANd each of those teams have multiple of those guys.

凯尔特人球迷:问题不在于对手有能防老詹的人,而在于湖人没有能防的年轻人。而且湖人那些对手队里都有不止一个防守悍将。

[–]Rager_YMN_6 13 指標 4小時前

It's not even just the lack of a wing, but Vogel's lack of adjustments. Playing Rondo, AB and Dwight with LeBron is inexcusable. No spacing whatsoever

His dependence on iso ball is also killing us. Vogel has only been valuable to our team chemistry defense, everything else he's been objectively bad at.

湖人的问题甚至不止是缺乏侧翼,还有沃格尔的临场调整。让隆多、布拉德利、霍华德和老詹一起出场,这说不通吧。没有空间啊。

他对于单打战术的依赖也害了球队。沃格尔只善于调动球队的化学反应和防守,其他方面其实都不行。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid l ardbiscuits 29 指標 4小時前

They literally are a two man offense. I can't believe they've won so many games. Must be nice actually being able to beat terrible teams, unlike my Sixers.

76人球迷:湖人算是只有两人防守。我都不敢信,他们居然还能赢这么多场。能够战胜那些下流球队肯定很爽,不像我76人……

[–]NBA urfaselol 121 指標 4小時前

Tobias Simmons and thybulle absolutely dominated

这场比赛哈里斯、西蒙斯和塞布尔打出了绝对的统治力

[–]Pelicans Ballgame2398 22 指標 4小時前

Thybulle is a stud on defense wish Pels had a player like that

鹈鹕球迷:塞布尔的防守真猛啊,真希望我鹈鹕也有这种球员

[–]KneesMcgee 12 指標 5小時前

Still can’t believe the Celtics gave thybulle to the sixers

还是不敢相信,凯尔特人居然把塞布尔送给了76人

[–]76ers SonicdaSloth 85 指標 4小時前

Big Al closed it out though. Didn’t look washed tonight

76人球迷:霍福德收割了比赛。今天看着不水哦

[–]Bucks A2Eaton 47 指標 4小時前

For real I feel like no one is mentioning this, he single handedly decided the game was over.

雄鹿球迷:还真是,咋就没人说他呢,是他一己之力结束了比赛

[–]Thunder lethalizer 11 指標 4小時前

He's been doing that a lot lately. Happened in the Brooklyn game as well.

Without Embiid to clog the lane, big Al just naturally shines. He's a baller.

雷霆球迷:他近期这种表现还蛮多的。之前打篮网也是。

没有恩比德占据着油漆区,大个霍福德自然就露脸了。他很强的

[–]Lakers Otharp 216 指標 4小時前

Danny got murdered both in defense and offense all night. His shooting really struggled and he can't defend Simmons at all.

湖人球迷:丹尼-格林今天第四节在攻防两端都被爆了。他的投篮真的迷,而且压根就防不住西蒙斯

[–]Trail Blazers sloBrodanChillosevic 40 指標 4小時前*

Very few players can defend Ben Simmons. Dude shot 80% tonight, largely at the rim against a DPOY candidate in AD. He's legit becoming a superstar while Embiid is out

开拓者球迷:联盟里能防得住西蒙斯的球员本来就不多。本西今晚命中率80%,大部分是在篮下对抗赛季最佳防守人候选者戴维斯。恩比德不在的时候,本西的确打出了超巨的风采。

[–]aj2704 139 指標 4小時前

Danny shouldn't be defending Ben in the first place.

一开始就不该让丹尼-格林对位本西。

[–]Raging_Professor 60 指標 4小時前

Maybe LeBron should've defended Ben. It seems like he is trying to stay away from him

也许老詹应该去防西蒙斯。可貌似他总是躲着本西

[–][PHI] Robert Covington sjekky 47 指標 4小時前

It's not worth forcing him to play those tough minutes in January. He's already playing a lot of minutes and carrying a big offensive load5

76人球迷:这才一月份嘛,不值得迫使老詹挑这么重的担子。他打得时间已经很长了,而且进攻端还得挑大梁。

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[–][NYK] Carmelo Anthony burnedgoat 141 指標 4小時前

Good night for underappreciated stars. First Gobert, now Ben with the masterclass against elite opposition

尼克斯球迷:今晚是属于那些不被待见的球星的。先是戈贝尔,然后是西蒙斯面对顶级对手打出了大师级表现

[–]Warriors Balls_of_Adamanthium 166 指標 4小時前*

Simmons is fucking monster.

勇士球迷:西蒙斯真特么野兽啊

[–]76ers LelandPereira 60 指標 5小時前

Ben Simmons heard y’all talking shit

76人球迷:西蒙斯已经听到你们黑他了

[–]insan3soldiern 7 指標 5小時前

I have been watching a lot of the 76er's and man Simmons is such a fun player to watch. Becoming a fan.

我这赛季看了很多76人的比赛,西蒙斯打球看着真是有趣。粉上了

[–][PHI] T.J. McConnell SamTheSidekick 132 指標 5小時前

hopefully now the nephews have actually watched ben play

76人球迷:希望那些小学生球迷现在能真正能看到西蒙斯的表现

[–]Trail Blazers sloBrodanChillosevic 45 指標 4小時前

Imagine thinking he needs to change up his play style

开拓者球迷:之前居然还有人觉得他必须要改变打法

[–]Warriors Balls_of_Adamanthium 44 指標 4小時前

I don't think he needs to change up his style. Just add maybe a 13 footer to his game. His lack of shooting could be exploited during the playoffs as we saw with Giannis last year.

勇士球迷:我觉得本西不需要改变打法。或许只需要练好13英尺外的跳投就好。他的投射短板到了季后赛就会被针对,就像上赛季的字母哥一样。

[–]76ers Chelli64 29 指標 4小時前

He’s added some kind of hook shot to his game that works decently

76人球迷:他已经增加了某种勾手技能,还挺管用的

[–]Warriors Balls_of_Adamanthium 14 指標 4小時前

That shot is sexy as fuck

勇士球迷:他那勾手骚气的一匹

[–]76ers Lego415 200 指標 5小時前

Ben Simmons is a superstar

76人球迷:西蒙斯就是超巨

[–]Trail Blazers sloBrodanChillosevic 129 指標 4小時前

He and Thybulle shut the Lakers down. 10 steals between them and they fucking iced LA down the stretch.

开拓者球迷:他和塞布尔摁住了湖人。他俩一起近10个抢断,在最后关头硬生生把特么湖人掐死了。

[–]Lakers kekishbassoon 122 指標 4小時前

matisse thybulle is a fucking dog

湖人球迷:马蒂斯-塞布尔就特么疯狗一样

[–]NBA urfaselol 26 指標 5小時前

Matisse Thybulle is a baby Kawhi. Scary how good of a defender and shooter he is as a rookie

塞布尔就是幼齿版的卡哇伊。他的恐怖之处在于,明明是个菜鸟,防守和投篮却很厉害。

[–]Trail Blazers sloBrodanChillosevic 56 指標 4小時前

He and Simmons locking down a backcourt entirely is gonna win them a series this year

开拓者球迷:他和西蒙斯对对方后场的双杀这赛季可以帮助76人赢下一轮系列赛

[–]sebas_1237 62 指標 4小時前

And Tobias quietly dropping 29 pts

哈里斯也悄悄地拿下了29分

[–]76ers Hallowed_Be_Thy_Game 21 指標 4小時前

People shit on him for his contract but he has been fantastic for us. He just had a tough time when playing through the flu

76人球迷:很多人因为他的大合同喷他,不过他在队里一直都蛮好。只是之前流感期间打得不好

[–]Raptors The_Unknown98 250 指標 4小時前

The 76ers are now 21-2 at home and are 9-15 on the road

猛龙球迷:76人现在主场21胜2负,客场9胜15负

[–]76ers embarrassed420 15 指標 5小時前

Petition to play the entire season at home

76人球迷:请求联盟让我们整个赛季都在主场打

[–]summersoulxdd 26 指標 4小時前

The 76ers are gonna be a super dangerous 5/6th seed

76人会是一支超级危险的五六号种子队

[–]76ers clingbat 13 指標 5小時前

So now we've embarrassed the Bucks and Lakers on national TV (missing two starters tonight...) but we can't beat teams like the Magic lol. This team is so weird.

76人球迷:所以呢,咱们现在已经在全国观众面前让雄鹿和湖人(今晚还少了两个首发……)丢份了,不过我们却干不过魔术这种队,哈哈哈。这队太奇怪了

[–]76ers oneechanisgood 36 指標 4小時前

We're getting spanked by Golden State on Wednesday aren't we

76人球迷:看来我们周三要被勇士揍了,对不

[–][PHI] Toni Kukoc NeonParticles 22 指標 4小時前

This is the way

76人球迷:就是这个尿性

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[–]76ers _FroJo_ 99 指標 5小時前

17 point win missing joel embiid and josh richardson lmao

76人球迷:没有恩比德和理查德森还赢了湖人17分,哈哈哈哈

[–]76ers The_Jrueth 78 指標 5小時前

We beat the fuck out of them while starting fucking Shake Milton lmao

76人球迷:我们都特么让米尔顿首发了居然还能干趴他们

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid UncleDrewDogger 14 指標 4小時前

Shake played surprisingly well tonight, did exactly what he was asked

76人球迷:米尔顿今晚打得意外地好啊,完成了自己的任务

[–]Lakers funcle22 21 指標 5小時前

Even the Bald Mamba couldn’t save us, GG 6ers

湖人球迷:连秃曼巴也不能拯救我们,厉害了76人

[–]Raptors ProfessorBeast55 19 指標 5小時前

LeBron's 3rd all time leading scorer in NBA history party was ruined by the hands of Ben Simmons and Danny Green

猛龙球迷:老詹历史得分榜第三位的派对就这么被本西和丹尼-格林的双手给毁了。

[–]Raptors The_Unknown98 489 指標 6小時前

LeBron is so calculated that Kobe's hometown (Philadelphia) is when he passes Kobe in scoring.

猛龙球迷:老詹真是会算,到了科比的家乡(费城)才在总得分榜上超越科比

[–]76ers ZaCurry71 184 指標 6小時前

Pretty great to see our fans all give him a standing ovation.

76人球迷:看到我们的粉丝都起立给老詹鼓掌致意还是蛮不错的

[–]Clemario 261 指標 6小時前

In Kobe’s hometown, playing for Kobe’s team

在科比的家乡,而且还为科比的老东家打球

[–]Lakers MMDroxy 81 指標 6小時前

We are all witness. Glad he did while wearing a Laker uniform!

湖人球迷:咱们都是见证者!很高兴看到他穿着湖人球衣完成这一壮举!

[–][DAL] Wang Zhizhi suzukigun4life 491 指標 4小時前

LeBron fans got to see their guy pass Kobe on the all-time scoring list.

LeBron haters got to see his team lose by double figures on primetime.

Win-win for both sides

王治郅球迷:詹粉可以看到自己的偶像在历史总得分榜上超越科比

詹黑可以在如此高光的时刻看到老詹的球队输给对手10多分

这场比赛詹粉、詹黑双赢!

[–][LAL] Marcelo Huertas henstobs11 40 指標 5小時前

7 players not named LeBron or AD scored 29 points on 35 shots

湖人球迷:除了老詹和戴维斯之外的7名球员加起来35投,就得了29分

[–]Bulls celsius_two_3_two 11 指標 5小時前

Sixers at home is really something else. Like, Ben becomes prime LeBron, and everyone else becomes Klay.

Also, Kuz is so ass.

公牛球迷:76人主场还是有点厉害的,本西化身巅峰老詹,其他人都成了克莱。

还有,库兹马真是菜

[–]Heat Saltmore1 13 指標 5小時前

Kuzma is a dud. He just can't score against good defensive teams at all.

热火球迷:库兹马真是不中用。碰上防守好的队他就得不了分。

[–]travelexpert13 15 指標 4小時前

As a bron hater and philly fan, I am extra erect tonight.

作为一个詹黑和76人球迷,我今晚性奋得不行啊

[–][TOR] Fred VanVleet Smugleaf_Raptors2012 29 指標 4小時前

I, like the rest of the east, needed the Lakers win tho ffs

猛龙球迷:可我和东部其他队粉一样,还是希望湖人这场赢的

[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum TantalizingBanana 25 指標 4小時前

Nah when the Lakers lose its a win for everyone

凯尔特人球迷:不,只要湖人输球,那就是大家的胜利

[–][TOR] OG Anunoby RendHeaven 37 指標 4小時前

Not me. Congrats Sixers bros.

猛龙球迷:我也是。祝贺76人老铁

[–]Raptors BeADragonQueen 19 指標 4小時前

Same i know philly and raptors have their rivalry but was low key rooting was philly, great job, Simmons was elite af

猛龙球迷:对啊,我知道76人和猛龙有敌对关系,不过还是默默支持着76人,干得漂亮!西蒙斯真的顶!

[–]76ers MaiqDaLiar1177 68 指標 5小時前

Ben is the DPOTY. You can’t convince me otherwise

76人球迷:西蒙斯就是年度最佳防守人,其他的我都不听

[–]76ers Yazakuchi 32 指標 5小時前

Public has already made up their mind about DPOTY with AD, its a narrative based award, if Ben was on the Lakers and AD on the Sixers then Ben would be the favorite

76人球迷:公众已经把戴维斯当成他们心中的年度最佳防守人了,而且这个奖项又很在乎大众舆论。如果本西在湖人,戴维斯在76人,那本西就是热门了。

[–]76ers joatmos 18 指標 4小時前

Caruso was the best defensive player for the Lakers tonight. AD’s defense wasn’t noticeable in this game.

76人球迷:湖人今晚防守最好的是卡鲁索,戴维斯的防守倒没那么显眼。

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[–]Raptors Jaskeerit27 31 指標 5小時前

That’s officially 5 losses against 5 of the top 6 teams in the East

bUt bUt bUt tHe wEsT is BeTtEr

猛龙球迷:湖人这面的东部前六都输了五个了。

还是有人会说,“可是西部更强啊”

[–]Cavaliers StKd0t 7 指標 5小時前

Fake #1 seed

骑士球迷:虚假的联盟第一

[–]Celtics Alpacaman__ 6 指標 5小時前

East teams might wanna start rooting for the Lakers to come out of the West

凯尔特人球迷:东部球队或许会开始希望湖人能杀入总决赛。

[–]Slamdunk360 5 指標 5小時前

Lakers defence has gone horrible in the past few weeks. What happened? Clippers going to smack them next

湖人过去几周的防守一直都不行。这是咋了?接下来快船还得在他们头上撒野。

[–]Lakers NotClayMerritt 4 指標 5小時前

I think it's pretty clear what our weaknesses are. They've continued to keep coming up over and over again in our 10 losses. This may just be an inherent flaw in this team that not necessarily fixable because there's nobody that this team could trade for or sign in the buyout market that would fix this issue.

Also, it's time to trade Kyle Kuzma if we can get someone who can play consistently.

The top 7 defenses in the NBA are: Bucks Raptors 76ers Lakers Celtics Magic Clippers. The Lakers have lost to all of these teams and only beat the Magic.

湖人球迷:我觉得我湖的弱点已经很明显了。这输掉的10场球里,这些短板一次又一次地暴露。这或许就是这支湖人的固有缺点,不是很有解决的必要,因为交易市场上找不到能解决问题的人。

还有啊,要是我们能找到可以稳定输出的人,那就可以送走库兹马了。

联盟防守前7的球队分别是:雄鹿、猛龙、76人、湖人、凯尔特人、魔术、快船。湖人就赢过魔术,其他队都输了。

[–]shanmustafa 14 指標 5小時前

idk what lebron was doing at the end, i understand your threes weren't going, but if youre running those pnrs to get a small on you, and ben goes waaaay under, you have to shoot that. otherwise it makes no sense and you should just run your regular offense

我不知道老詹最后是在干嘛。三分进不了我还能理解,可要是你利用挡拆对上了小个子,而且本西锁得老深,那你投就完了啊。不然说不过去啊,就用常规打法不好嘛!

[–]Lakers inyourfeelings78 7 指標 5小時前

Lakers had momentum until he was put back in the game in the final minutes. I know it's stupid to say they shouldn't have put him in, because you always put him in and live with the results, but he took a stupid three, down 5 with a few mins left. A 2pt basket would've possibly been enough to allow the Lakers to go for the kill. I never really understand why he likes his (stepback) threes in crunch-time moments like these when the guy is built like a tank. A make obviously knocks the air out of the 6ers, but the difference between 2 and 3 pts is less than the difference between 5 and 7 points. A miss there and a make by the 6ers knocks the wind out of the Lakers, especially with under 3 mins left. Make the 2pt shot, and play defense.

湖人球迷:在最后阶段老詹被换上来之前,我湖本来打出了气势。要是说球队不该派上老詹,那就很蠢了,这我懂,因为这种时候总是会派上他,不管啥结果都得接受,不过他上来之后来了次愚蠢的三分,那会儿比赛还剩几分钟,我们落后五分。一个两分篮子也许就足够让我们咬住对手了。我真是搞不懂,为啥他明明有着坦克般的体格,却在这种关键时刻这么迷信(撤步)三分。这边三分投丢,那边76人进一个,这就等于是扑灭了我湖反扑的气焰,尤其是在比赛还剩三分钟的时候。要两分回来再防守就好了啊

[–]Lakers bengalsfu 182 指標 6小時前

Kareem is in reach

湖人球迷:老詹的总得分离贾巴尔也不远了

[–]milesac 154 指標 6小時前

3 more seasons. Just has to average 25 and play at least 75 games per season.

至少得3个赛季。还得每个赛季至少打75场,场均25分

[–]Thunder bushdiid911 67 指標 6小時前

That’s so crazy to think about. I think if LeBron doesn’t beat Kareem we’ll never see it happen

雷霆球迷:想想就不可思议。我觉得,要是老詹不能超越贾巴尔,那以后都不会有来者了

[–]Timberwolves PM_YOUR_CLIT 73 指標 6小時前

Tbh I thought KD would eventually eclipse it since his shooting is so insane. But not having an entire season will destroy that shot sadly.

森林狼球迷:说真的,我以前觉得阿杜有机会,毕竟他的篮子很准。不过他都打不了一个完整赛季,这就没可能了。

[–]Spurs TheMonster_56 21 指標 6小時前

I disagree actually, unless the regular season gets shortened the amount of threes being made by superstars today and in the future will make it easier for them than for Lebron.

马刺球迷:说不会有来者我还真不同意。除非常规赛场次被压缩,不然的话,如今和以后的这些超巨每场投这么多三分,比起老詹来说,他们超越贾巴尔就会更容易。

[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 26 指標 6小時前

Players play way less today tho. Lebron averages 39 mins a game for his career. Nobody is ever gonna average that many mins again. Players also rarely play 78 + anymore

篮网球迷:可是现在的球员打得时间少得多啊。老詹生涯场均出场39分钟,不会再有人打这么长时间了。而且现在的球员单赛季打78场的也很少

[–][LAL] Alex Caruso SDas_ 46 指標 6小時前

A player would still have to average over 30+ consistently for 16+ seasons and play 75+ games. It's unlikely.

湖人球迷:而且要想超越贾巴尔,这人还得连着至少16个赛季每年出场至少75次,场均30分往上。这不可能啊

[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 57 指標 6小時前

It's insane that the only guys he has left are Kareem and Malone. Like I've been following his journey his whole career and we've always thought he'd have a shot at Kareems record and the mad man is actually doing it. Lebron is a living legend playing the game at an mvp level still we have to appreciate it while it last because it's gonna be gone soon.

篮网球迷:老詹身前就只剩下马龙和贾巴尔了,真是了不起。我一直在追随着老詹的整个职业生涯,咱们总说他有机会挑战贾巴尔的纪录,可这个疯子居然还真是朝着这个方向努力的。老詹就是个传奇,依然处于MVP水准,趁着他还在打,咱们得珍惜啊,因为不久之后就没得看了。

[–]Raptors PickAndTroll 34 指標 3小時前

When tho? Man's 35, 17 seasons in, and is still at worst a top 3 player in the league. This dude fucks with my understanding of aging.

猛龙球迷:可是这不久后是啥时候呢?35岁的他打了17个赛季,依然算是联盟前三的水准。这个老家伙搞乱了我对年龄的认知。

[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 17 指標 3小時前

there was a time when calling lebron a top 3 player would've been disrespectful. The guy was that far ahead of everybody. Hes still that good but hes clearly aged a bit, and he'll prolly slowly decline over the next few years.

篮网球迷:之前甚至还有这么段时间,你要是说老詹是前三球员,那就是侮辱人。这哥们儿甩开其他人太多了。他现在还是很强,不过明显有点上年纪了,接下来几年或许会慢慢下滑。

[–]laceup989 12 指標 2小時前

But even if he declines over the next few years, where does that put him? Still an all-star two seasons from now? Still top 50 3-4 years from now? This man could average 15/5/5 for another six years at least if he wanted to, which is still damn near a max contract in today's NBA.

即便他今后几年下滑,那又会怎样呢?往后两个赛季依然是全明星?往后三四年依然是联盟前50?只要他想,这个男人至少在今后六年依然可以奉献出场均15分5板5助的数据,这放在如今的NBA,都特么快赶上一份顶薪合同了。

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