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【键盘侠】蒂格重返老鹰|唐斯和维金斯终于能拿回球权了!

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Atlanta has traded guard Allen Crabbe to Minnesota for PG Jeff Teague and Treveon Graham, league sources tell ESPN. Hawks get a backup for Trae Young.

日老鹰和森林狼官方宣布,双方交易已经达成,老鹰送出克拉比,从森林狼得到蒂格与格拉汉姆。

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[–][PHI] Joel Embiid lardbiscuits 2349 指標 8小時前

Teague sucks, but that return for Minnesota is a big time woof.

76人球迷:蒂格虽然菜,可森林狼这笔交易也没得到啥啊

[–][MIN] Corey Brewer RoyalLake 129 指標 8小時前

Is it though?

What team was calling for Teague?

We didn't take on any future money either.

森林狼球迷:是嘛?

不然还有哪个队会要蒂格?

而且我们又没动用以后的薪资空间

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid lardbiscuits 120 指標 8小時前

I don't know. Teague sucks but he is a point guard that can dribble and put the ball in the hoop.

Crabbe is utterly useless as a shooter that this season can't shoot, and he's an even worse defender than both the guys you dealt.

76人球迷:这就不好说了。蒂格是不行,不过他是个能带球能得分的控卫啊。

克拉比作为一个投手,这个赛季是完全没用的,因为他没篮子,而且他的防守比蒂格和格拉汉姆都差。

[–]SlowKindheartedness3 76 指標 8小時前

Yea, I mean Teague sucks, but he's at least an NBA player. But this doesn't really matter, both teams aren't doing anything this year and both Crabbe and Teague expire after this year.

对啊,我就觉得蒂格虽然菜,可至少还算个NBA球员。不过这笔交易其实也无大碍,两队这赛季都干不了大事儿,而且克拉比和蒂格这赛季过后合同就到期了。

[–][MIN] Corey Brewer RoyalLake 86 指標 8小時前

Teague sucks but he is a point guard that can dribble and put the ball in the hoop.

He dribbles far too much. He didn't run an offense. He didn't put it in the hoop efficiently.

Teague dropped off a cliff.

Teague was just as bad on defense. He didn't do a thing.

森林狼球迷:“蒂格是不行,不过他是个能带球能得分的控卫啊”

他带球带得太多了,他发起不了进攻,也不能高效得分。

蒂格的水平早就断崖式下滑了。

他的防守和克拉比没差,啥也干不了。

[–]Timberwolves DrWolves 154 指標 8小時前

Trading Teague and Graham opens up a roster spot to allow us to sign Kelan Martin OR trade RoCo and get two players back. Crabbe will be off the books next season so all things considered this was a good deal

森林狼球迷:送走蒂格和格拉汉姆还能让我们多出一个名额,这样就能签下凯勒-马丁(目前是双向合同)了,要不我们就送走考文顿,再签来两个球员。克拉比下赛季就不在队里了,所以全盘考虑,这笔交易蛮好。

[–]Timberwolves Freightway 581 指標 7小時前

If Crabbe will pass the ball back to KAT it’s an improvement.

森林狼球迷:如果克拉比能把球给回到唐斯手里,那就是一种进步。

[–]Timberwolves NightmanMatt 2532 指標 8小時前

Honestly worth it to not have Teague

森林狼球迷:讲真,只要没了蒂格,这笔交易就值了。

[–]Hawks shyspy 1279 指標 8小時前

the feeling is mutual for Craabe lol

老鹰球迷:我们对克拉比也是这种感觉,哈哈哈

[–]Timberwolves plap11 1799 指標 8小時前

Classic lose-lose trade.

森林狼球迷:经典的双输交易

[–]Suns Garginator850 59 指標 7小時前

Addition by subtraction

太阳球迷:负负得正

[–]Raptors _janson 83 指標 8小時前

like the Kyrie-IT trade

猛龙球迷:就像欧文和小托马斯的交易

[–]Celtics LuckysBestMan 139 指標 7小時前

kyrie/IT trade was a great gamble for the celtics. they lost practically nothing (IT/Crowder/zizic and what turned out to be sexton)

凯尔特人球迷:凯尔特人当初用小托马斯换欧文的这笔赌博还是蛮不错的。我们基本没损失啥(小托马斯、克劳德、日日奇和之后兑现为塞克斯顿的选秀签)

[–]Lakers cgio0 75 指標 7小時前

legit the IT trade saved you money and gave you flexibility. IT was not worth giving big money to even if he was healthy.

You were able to add Kemba this off-season so you have someone better than Sexton

湖人球迷:小托马斯那笔交易还真替你们省钱了,而且增加了你们的阵容灵活性。小托马斯即便健康也值不了大合同。

你们去年休赛期还能引进沃克,他比塞克斯顿可要强不少。

[–]Celtics LuckysBestMan 47 指標 7小時前

exactly. i hate kyrie as much as the next celtics fan but that was a gamble i would do again in a heartbeat.

凯尔特人球迷:就是。虽说我很讨厌欧文,不过当初那笔赌博式交易我会毫不犹豫地再做一次。

[–]Lakers cgio0 31 指標 7小時前

Yea and now you have someone who is all around healthier and better teammate

Like Kyrie might be better than Kemba but Kemba is on the court more and a better person

So its a much better scenario

湖人球迷:对啊,现在你们有了更健康也更受队友喜欢的沃克。

欧文也许比沃克厉害,不过沃克出勤率更高,人也更好。

你们现在的局面要好太多了。

[–][MIN] Corey Brewer RoyalLake 93 指標 7小時前

This isn't a loss for us.

Worst case scenario out of this is it gives us money/roster space.

森林狼球迷:我们这笔交易可没输啊。

再不济也能让我们腾出部分薪资和一个名额。

[–]Skunedog48 15 指標 5小時前

Yeah, the money we save is nearly inconsequential but giving us the roster spot to call up Kelan Martin (who has been torching it in the G League) for the rest of the season is helpful

是啊,我们剩下的薪资几乎是不值一提的,不过多出来的名额可以召回凯勒-马丁(他在发展联盟大杀四方),这对余下的赛季还是有帮助的。

[–][LAL] Jerry West blancs50 476 指標 7小時前

If Crabbe can return to his career 39% shooting, he could be a big boon for Minny. You all are ranked 29th in 3pt%.

湖人球迷:如果克拉比的三分能回归到生涯平均的39%命中率水准,那森林狼就赚大了。毕竟你们现在的三分命中率都排到联盟第29去了。

[–]Timberwolves lancebrooks 213 指標 7小時前

Are we sure Crabbe is even going to play?

森林狼球迷:咱确定克拉比还能上场么?

[–]Lakers paraMAYBE_DO_LESS 334 指標 7小時前

I mean your team was playing Graham 20 mpg and his shooting was just as bad if not worse.

湖人球迷:你们之前都让格拉汉姆场均打20分钟了,他的篮子和克拉比没差。

[–]Timberwolves mntimberwolvesig 262 指標 6小時前

Graham is shooting fucking 20% from three lmao

森林狼球迷:格拉汉姆三分命中率特么只有20%啊,哈哈哈

[–]Warriors uberdosage 81 指標 6小時前

He can join Poole and be the brick brothers

勇士球迷:可以和普尔一起组成老铁兄弟。

[–][MIN] Lance Stephenson AdolfKoopaTroopa 61 指標 7小時前

I think we're top 5 in attempts too

森林狼球迷:记得我们的三分出手次数排在联盟前五

[–]Suns JFZephyr 76 指標 6小時前

Ah the classic Suns game plan. Chuck as many threes a game as the top teams, realize you have no shooters besides Booker, lose a lot.

This year we're upped it to add Saric, Cam and Baynes at least.

太阳球迷:啊,这就是经典的太阳风格。像顶级强队一样疯狂投三分,然后意识到队里除了布克之外没有其他投手,所以经常输球。

这赛季我们加入萨里奇、卡梅隆-约翰逊和贝恩斯之后至少还有了点起色。

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[–]DiorVert 1000 指標 8小時前*

Atlanta: so like, yeah he sucks, you sure you want him? we didn’t think you’d actually take the offer..

Wolves: um.. you sure you want ours?

亚特兰大:所以是这么回事,克拉比确实菜,你们确定想要他吗?我们没想到你们居然会接受这个报价……

森林狼球迷:呃……你们确定想要我们这两位吗?

[–][MIN] Lance Stephenson AdolfKoopaTroopa 248 指標 7小時前

This is accurate dialogue

森林狼球迷:这就是真实对话!

[–]Trail Blazers hereforporn696969 2095 指標 8小時前

-Layman

-Crabbe

-Shabazz

-Vonleh

Timberwolves reconstructing the Blazers roster confirmed

开拓者球迷:杰克-莱曼、克拉比、沙巴兹、诺阿-冯莱

森林狼这是要重建之前开拓者的阵容啊

[–]Timberwolves timberwolvesguy 604 指標 8小時前

How much for one Lillard and McCollum to complete the set?

森林狼球迷:那要是我们想再引进利拉德和CJ搞定那套阵容,你们要价多少?

[–]Trail Blazers Martel1234 265 指標 7小時前

We would give you CJ for KAT

开拓者球迷:你们可以用唐斯换CJ

[–]Thunder UndergroundUnderdog4 59 指標 7小時前

Only if you give lillard for wiggins

雷霆球迷:除非你们用利拉德换维金斯

[–][MIL] Ish Smith SuperRedditLand 49 指標 8小時前

Bucks could merge with the Timberwolves and make a team of former trailblazers

雄鹿球迷:雄鹿可以和森林狼合并组成以前的那支开拓者

[–]Timberwolves X-iStheGr8estWRapper 35 指標 7小時前

I’m cool with a merger. I kinda want to see KAT and Giannis on the same roster lmao

森林狼球迷:我觉得挺好。我倒有点想看看唐斯和字母哥一起打球,哈哈

[–][NYK] Amar'e Stoudemire trojan3997 206 指標 8小時前

Imagine if they had just kept Rubio who actually fit the team, plays D, and was perfect to feed KAT and Wiggins, instead of shelling out for Teague

尼克斯球迷:要是森林狼当初留住卢比奥多好啊,他其实是挺适合的,有防守,又是给唐斯和维金斯喂球的完美人选,而不是让蒂格胡来。

[–]RedRanger9001 122 指標 7小時前

Imagine if they had traded Wiggins for Butler straight up. Rubio, Lavine, Butler, Markkanen, and KAT. Butler was awesome. I cannot deny how different Basketball was in that season, but literally everything else about Thibs was horrendous.

那要是森林狼当初直接用维金斯换巴特勒多好啊。卢比奥、拉文、巴特勒、马尔卡宁和唐斯。巴特勒太厉害了。他们在那个赛季的变化是不可否认的,不过基本上与锡伯杜有关的一切事情都很可怕。

[–]Timberwolves Jrpre33 71 指標 7小時前

Rubio would have been traded regardless because Thibs hated him.

森林狼球迷:不管咋样,卢比奥都是会被送走的,因为锡伯杜讨厌他。

[–][GSW] Stephen Curry Nyhrox 185 指標 8小時前*

GET THE GANG BACK TOGETHER

There's no Lebron in the east anymore

勇士球迷:重组当年那支60胜老鹰吧!!!

东部已经没有老詹了

[–]Raptors The_Natural_Log 82 指標 8小時前

Parsons, Bembry, and 2 protected frp for Horford, who says no?

猛龙球迷:帕森斯、本布里和一个受保护的二轮签换霍福德,谁反对?

[–]Raptors rcoberle_54 31 指標 6小時前

Surprised I had to scroll this far. Half the nephews in this sub probably weren't old enough to remember 60 win team with Teague, Horford, Millsap, Korver, and Carrol.

猛龙球迷:我居然还得拉到这么下面才看到这种评论。这个论坛里有一半的小学生或许都不记得老鹰那个60胜的赛季了,当时他们有蒂格、霍福德、米尔萨普、科沃尔和卡罗尔。

[–][MIA] Bam Adebayo Unnecessary_Umlauts 10 指標 3小時前

I loved that team. I really thought Teague was fixing to break out.

Turns out, that was kinda his peak...

热火球迷:我很喜欢那支老鹰。当时真觉得蒂格要迎来质变。

结果发现,那才是他的巅峰……

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[–][BOS] Jaylen Brown Ye_Biz 4137 指標 8小時前

FINALLY A TRADE

凯尔特人球迷:总算有交易了!!

[–]Thunder boybraden 163 指標 8小時前

This is the blockbuster trade of the year

雷霆球迷:这就是年度重大交易!

[–][UTA] Bernard King DeathBySuplex 134 指標 8小時前

Was Clarkson for Exum not enough for you animals?

爵士球迷:你们这帮牲口是看不起克拉克森换埃克萨姆吗?

[–]Thunder AtrocityNZ 26 指標 5小時前

That was last year

雷霆球迷:那都去年的事儿了

[–]Knicks hooskies 64 指標 8小時前

What doe Minnesota get out of this?

And don’t say Allen Crabbe.

尼克斯球迷:森林狼到底得到了啥?

别说是克拉比

[–]Mavericks glansberg_stephen 426 指標 8小時前

Because he isn't Jeff Teague

独行侠球迷:克拉比不是蒂格,这就够了。

[–]Nets Expulsure 157 指標 8小時前

Jeff Teague is a lot better than Crabbe

篮网球迷:蒂格可比克拉比强多了。

[–]Timberwolves toufu6 23 指標 8小時前

They get to run their offense with 24 seconds on the shot clock, as opposed to the Jeff Teague dribble for 21, pass it to somebody for 3 seconds offense.

森林狼球迷:这笔交易过后,我们可以有24秒的进攻时间了啊,而不是那种蒂格“运21秒,还剩3秒时传给队友”的进攻

[–]Mavericks glansberg_stephen 103 指標 8小時前

Psh Allen Crabbe is shooting 32% from three this year, what do you know

独行侠球迷:切,克拉比这赛季三分32%,你知道个啥

[–]Timberwolves diddlyumpcious4 338 指標 8小時前

Fits our scheme perfect. Shooting tons and making none of them is exactly what this team does best.

森林狼球迷:完美融入我们的战术啊。狂投不进,这正是森林狼目前最擅长的。

[–]Timberwolves BigJay1941 162 指標 8小時前

Everyone in the deal is expiring. We wanted to get out from Teague because he just takes the ball out of KAT and Wiggs hands way too much. Crabbe can play servicable defense and hit an open shot, something Treveon Graham definitely wasn’t doing. No real winners or losers here, kinda just a lateral move that helps both teams do what they want to do a little better. Plus Wolves open a roster spot if they want to sign Naz Reid to a contract or bring in another guy.

森林狼球迷:这笔交易里每个人的合同都快到期了。我们想送走蒂格,是因为他让唐斯和维金斯拿不到球。克拉比防守凑合,能进空位三分,这是格拉汉姆肯定做不到的。这笔交易没有赢家和输家,就是球员挪个窝,对两队都能有点帮助。而且森林狼要是想签纳兹-里德或其他人的话,还有名额可操作。

[–]Sandor TheLumberjack 356 指標 8小時前

I'm guessing Wolves now sign Kelan Martin to a full roster spot since they were capped out

It also forces Saunders to run more Point Wiggins and Point Culver

我觉得吧,森林狼现在要把凯勒-马丁正式签入阵中。

这就迫使小桑德斯更多地让维金斯和卡尔弗打控卫。

[–][MIN] Kevin Garnett Tchaikovsky08 169 指標 8小時前

This is the right answer IMO

森林狼球迷:我觉得楼上是正确答案

[–]Timberwolves akulkarnii 442 指標 8小時前

For everyone asking what Minnesota gets... we ditch Jeff Teague. That is all.

森林狼球迷:对那些问我们从这笔交易中得到什么的……我们甩掉了蒂格。这就够了

[–]Hawks theDrunkWookie 29 指標 8小時前

We probably waive Graham tbh. Teague is the main piece of this trade

老鹰球迷:讲真,我们也许会裁掉格拉汉姆。蒂格是这笔交易的主要部分。

[–]Mavericks glansberg_stephen 90 指標 8小時前

Teague is to Young what Schroeder was to Teague

Life is a funny thing

独行侠球迷:蒂格之于吹羊就像当初施罗德之于蒂格

命运很有意思啊

[–]Hawks childishgames 146 指標 8小時前*

Teague was being asked to do something in Minnesota that he can't do at this point in his career: be the primary point guard on a team. For starting NBA point guard standards, he's not good anymore.

Still, the dude is averaging 13pts and 6ast on 44% from the field, 38% from three, and 87% from the line. Throw in 6 asists and 2tov. That's still pretty efficient, even if it's not what you want from your #1 point guard

He'll be asked to take a backup and complementary role (which we need, desperately in the backcourt), and when he's not being asked to run the show, we will be perfectly happy with those efficiency stats. In fact, our team is terrible, and Teague will instantly be one of our 5 best players. Teague should allow us to let Trae sit a couple more minutes/game, and will be a nice complementary outlet for when teams trap trae.

I just love this for us. All we had to give up was a guy in Crabbe who isn't good and barely played a bench role for the worst team in the NBA.

老鹰球迷:森林狼之前要求蒂格做主要的控卫,这是现阶段的他做不到的。参照NBA首发控卫的标准,蒂格已经不再优秀了。

不过他还是有场均13分6助2失误,命中率44%,三分38%,罚球87%。虽说这不是你想要的队内头号控卫的表现,不过还是挺高效的。

回到老鹰,他会承担替补的补充角色。当他不必主导进攻时,那种高效的数据就能让我们非常高兴了。事实上,我们老鹰很菜,他来了之后立马能成为队里最强的五个人之一。他还能让吹羊多休息,其他球队针对吹羊时他还能提供辅助。

我就是喜欢这笔交易。我们就是得放弃克拉比这种没能力又没法在NBA最菜队打替补的球员。

[–]Timberwolves wink91wink 41 指標 6小時前

The thing with Teague lately isn't really something that stats can show. The dude just doesn't run an offense. He dribbles and dribbles and dribbles and either shoots or drops it off to someone for a bad shot at the end of the shot clock. He is a great dude and veteran, but as a basketball player he just not good for team basketball.

森林狼球迷:蒂格近期的问题还真不是数据能显现出来的。这哥们儿就是不会组织进攻啊。他拿球带啊带,要么投篮,要么最后时刻甩锅队友。他是个好人,不过作为篮球运动员,他对团队篮球不利。

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[–][MEM] Hamed Haddadi freudianchips 21 指標 8小時前

I love when dudes get traded to their old teams.

灰熊球迷:我很喜欢看球员交易回老东家。

[–][DAL] Peja Stojakovic JesyouJesmeJesus 85 指標 8小時前

I also really like this trade. I asked a Minny fan here the other day if Teague would get traded, and this definitely makes sense for both sides imo. Hopefully this helps the Wolves right their ship a little.

独行侠球迷:我也蛮喜欢这笔交易。前天我还问了一个狼蜜蒂格会不会被交易,而且我觉得这笔交易对双方都说得过去。希望这次能让森林狼有点起色吧

[–]Hawks BlitzArchangel 14 指標 8小時前

Maybe a few years ago Crabbe. He's shooting 32% from 3, and averaging 5 points.

老鹰球迷:或许几年前的克拉比有用。他现在三分命中率也就32%,场均只有5分。

[–][DAL] Peja Stojakovic JesyouJesmeJesus 18 指標 8小時前

Minnesota is shooting 32.4% from 3, so he at least doesn’t bring that down, even if he only comes in and chucks 3’s

独行侠球迷:森林狼本赛季三分命中率也才32.4%啊,所以克拉比哪怕来了过后也打铁,至少不会拉低下限。

[–]supah_koopa 10 指標 8小時前*

I never had any hate for Teague. I actually really like the guy.

But he wasn't a good fit for what the Wolves are trying to do. Crabbe is. So while Crabbe's numbers may have dipped a bit this season (looks like 32-33% shooting edit: On 3s), that's not his typical % over his career, and Minnesota needs shooters desperately.  Here's hoping Crabbe gets some of his shooting mojo back.

我从来都不讨厌蒂格。其实还蛮喜欢他的。

不过他和森林狼不搭。克拉比还是符合的。所以即便他这个赛季的数据或许有点下滑,不过这不是他职业生涯的典型表现,而且森林狼急需射手。希望他能找回一些投篮感觉吧

[–]Knicks KDL2000 28 指標 8小時前

Great move for Atlanta. But now Minnesota literally has no PG (which was always a problem cause Teague dribbles the ball a bit too much)

尼克斯球迷:亚特兰大这笔操作很棒啊。不过森林狼现在基本没有控卫了(这一直都是他们的问题,因为蒂格控球太多了)。

[–]Timberwolves timberwolvesguy 21 指標 8小時前

Point Wiggins confirmed I guess.

森林狼球迷:我觉得维金斯打控卫定了。

[–]Wizards Catanyoufeelthelove 58 指標 8小時前

Hawks finally get a backup PG! That's been (one of) their biggest issues all season, when Trae Young is off the floor they just get killed. Think it's a good piece of business to get off the extra year of Crabbe's deal and add two rotation players.

奇才球迷:老鹰终于有了替补控卫。这一直是他们这个赛季最大的问题之一,吹羊一下场他们就停滞了。我觉得这笔交易挺好,既能甩掉克拉比的合同,又能加入两个轮换球员

[–]Hawks oogagoogaboo 8 指標 8小時前

Our bench is the equivalent of a bad g league team. Graham will definitely be in the rotation for us

老鹰球迷:我们的板凳实力和发展联盟没差。格拉汉姆肯定能进入轮换的。

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