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【键盘侠】本西训练屡进中远投|敢于出手已是巨大进步!

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Ben Simmons drilling threes in pickup.

76人后卫本-西蒙斯日前在训练中屡屡命中中距离和三分。

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[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant iamnotkobe 95 points 22 hours ago

Waiting for his first made 3 in NBA this season, a.k.a the post that could challenge r/nba top post of All-time

湖人球迷:我就等着他新赛季投进NBA生涯第一个三分,说白了,我就是等着那个可以改写专区历史最热纪录的帖子。

[–]RoboticusTartonicus 3 points 21 hours ago

defender: i aint guarding no damn ben simmons three

*simmons swishes three*

defender: *surprised pikachu face*

防守人:我特么才不会防西蒙斯的三分呢

“西蒙斯飚中三分”

防守人一脸懵逼

[–]Jazz musicnothing 397 points 23 hours ago

Hey these are actually contested threes too.

If this can translate to actual games the east is screwed.

爵士球迷:嘿嘿,他这些三分还是有点对抗的

要是这些三分能在实战中看到,那东部就乱咯

[–][CHI] Lauri Markkanen chitownbulls92 224 points 22 hours ago

The form looks really weird but if it works, it works

公牛球迷:他那手型看着真的怪,不过管用就行!

[–]Slobbin 26 points 22 hours ago

Holy shit that combination of size and lateral quickness is disgusting

我擦,他那个体型结合那种横向移动实在是太变态了

[–][CHI] Derrick Rose jeric13xd 24 points 23 hours ago

The stepbacks look decent too. Got his feet set everytime

公牛球迷:他那撤步看着也流畅啊。脚下每次都没乱。

[–]76ers RealPrinceJay 15 points 21 hours ago

Ben's got really good body control which I think helps him do things like that better than a shooter of his quality normally would be able to.

If he was just raised with good mechanics... man

76人球迷:西蒙斯的身体控制力确实很强,我觉得这就使得他做出的某些动作,通常要比和他能力相当的投手更强。

要是他从小就能培养正确的投篮习惯……那不敢想啊

[–]76ers eagereyez 8 points 19 hours ago

Weird that his shot is so messed considering he has a father who played professional ball and was surrounded by trainers all his life.

76人球迷:说来也是奇怪,他父亲曾是一名职业球员,他自己也是在一帮训练师的陪伴中长大的,可他的投篮却这么菜。

[–]Knicks Moses_Couldnt_Swim 50 points 21 hours ago

he shoots like a natural born righty who was told he was a lefty and taught himself how to do it that way

尼克斯球迷:单看这训练中的出手,西蒙斯就像是一个天生的右手球员,被人告知自己是个左撇子,还得按照左撇子的方式来投篮。

[–]Spurs LaDeMarcusAldrozen 66 points 22 hours ago

Yeah something about it is off

马刺球迷:是啊,总感觉少了点啥。

[–][CHI] Lauri Markkanen chitownbulls92 5 points 18 hours ago

Seriously, who the hell told him to start using his left hand to shoot ....

公牛球迷:说真的,一开始是谁特么让他用左手投篮的……

[–]76ers forthestreamz 10 points 13 hours ago

his dad

76人球迷:他爸

[–]pookachu123 52 points 21 hours ago

His form is still horrible his elbow is out and he has a weird hitch so he puts spin on the ball but again if it translates to 32%+ 3 pt shooting no one cares

他的手型还是很不好,手肘向外了,出球的动作很怪,所以球才会有点旋转。不过话说回来,要是能练出32%往上的三分命中率,那也没人在乎好不好看。

[–]timski9000 74 points 21 hours ago

Let’s start with like 25% for ol Ben

一开始能有个25%左右的命中率就行咯

[–]pookachu123 10 points 21 hours ago

true lol but they'll still sag off him if he shoots 25%

太真实了,哈哈哈,不过要是他的命中率只有25%,那防守人还是会放他的。

[–]kron_00 8 points 21 hours ago

If he's shooting 25% in game and they sag off him, he will eventually practice enough to shoot 30%. That's when teams are forced to guard him and it gets difficult for him from there.

要是他在比赛中命中率25%而且对方还放空他,那他最终会练出30%的命中率的。到那时候,其他球队就不得不派人去盯他了,那他就开始头疼了。

[–]Pelicans zacree 28 points 21 hours ago

Lol what the gosh dang heck are you talking about? Ben Simmons is begging for people to come meet him at the 3pt line. If he can shoot 30% from 3 without losing any of his current game, he's a serious problem for any team.

鹈鹕球迷:哈哈哈哈,你特么扯犊子呢?西蒙斯巴不得对方到三分线外防他。要是他三分线命中率能到30%,而且其他能力不退化的话,那他会让任何对手感到棘手。

[–]Magic Byrie_Swirving 10 points 21 hours ago

Siakam shot 37% this season and was still left open in the corner during the playoffs

魔术球迷:西亚卡姆上赛季的三分命中率是37%,到了季后赛里对手还是放他投底角三分。

[–]76ers dWaldizzle 14 points 20 hours ago

He was only closed down in the one corner where he shot his best at. The rest of the perimeter they just left him and he bricked like crazy lol.

76人球迷:对手只盯他一个底角,那是他最擅长的位置。外线其他位置直接放,然后他疯狂打铁,哈哈哈

[–]Raptors royst15 7 points 20 hours ago

I'm used to hating all teams the raptors play in the playoffs, so it feels weird actually rooting for him to find his shot. Strange feeling probably linked to actually winning the whole damn thing.

The sixers played the raps so well and watching him struggle offensively and get destroyed in the media must've been tough for 6ers fans. I actually hope he does well and they come out of the east (assuming the raptors don't, of course). Also will be fun seeing a different playstyle with just pure size, instead of just 3 point shooting.

猛龙球迷:我通常讨厌所有猛龙在季后赛中会遇到的对手,所以呢,现在支持西蒙斯练出篮子反倒觉得怪怪的。

76人之前打猛龙打得非常好,看着西蒙斯在进攻端犯难而且又被媒体抨击,76人球迷肯定很不好受。我真希望西蒙斯能有好的表现,他们能从东部突围(前提是猛龙不能)。

再说了,看到西蒙斯这种不同风格的身体流球员也是很有意思的。

[–]Lakers BlueGarage[S] 13 points 23 hours ago

His form looking better too

湖人球迷:他的手型看着更好了。

[–]Cavaliers StKd0t 30 points 22 hours ago

y'all for real lol

骑士球迷:你认真的吗,哈哈哈

[–]76ers SteelxSaint 6 points 17 hours ago

It's definitely better. It's easy to tell when you've seen all of his games homie.

76人球迷:绝对是更好了。你看他以前所有比赛就知道了,老弟。

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[–]exitingtheVC 14 points 22 hours ago

They weren't NBA threes though.

不过那些投篮不是NBA标准的三分。

[–]Lakers Kassa33 16 points 21 hours ago

Maybe I’m just really tired right now but I only saw 1 actual NBA three.

湖人球迷:或许是我累了眼花,但是我真只看到一个NBA标准的三分。

[–][MEM] Zach Randolph toxicdick 17 points 19 hours ago

that's more than he's made in the nba so far

灰熊球迷:那也比他目前在NBA的命中数高。

[–]Celtics a tomictyler 14 points 23 hours ago

Some incredibly lightly contested shots. I think one of them a dude actually tried for real.

It's still impressive he's hitting a pull up three though.

凯尔特人球迷:那个视频里他有些出手基本没有身体接触。有一球还有个哥们儿还想认真防来着。

不过他居然进了个急停三分,这还是有点内容的。

[–][PHI] Eric Snow gustriandos 31 points 23 hours ago

I wish it wasn't so damn ugly

76人球迷:要是没尼玛这么难看就好了。

[–]Saltwooder 130 points 23 hours ago

Said yo momma when you were born

你出生的时候你妈也是这么说的。

[–]Jazz MikePaulCarr 273 points 22 hours ago

I will always be convinced that he is shooting with the wrong hand. Good for him if it becomes consistent

爵士球迷:我一直都确信他投篮手用错了。要是能稳定下来就好了。

[–]XVDub 77 points 21 hours ago

Seriously, how the ball ends up coming off his left hand every time is mind boggling. He has to rotate both elbows after he's brought the ball up but before he releases it. Probably why it's such a slow relelase.

讲真,每次皮球离开他左手的方式都让我抓狂。他抓球之后,出手之前,总是要扭动两个手肘。或许这就解释了他的出手慢吧。

[–]76ers GuitarLord12 6 points 16 hours ago

i'm not an expert but i know that form is wack. Shooting hand must be straight not wonky like that. Idk why he feels shooting like that is the right way to go

76人球迷:我不是啥专家,但我知道那个手型是别扭的。投篮手必须得直直的,不是像他那样摇晃。不知道他为啥觉得那种投篮方式是对的。

[–]Spurs PhreedomFryer 8 points 13 hours ago

If he is shooting with wrong hand, he has probably has the most impressive shot i've ever seen someone take with the wrong hand.

马刺球迷:即便他的投篮手是错的,那在我见过的用错误投篮手投篮的人里,他的篮子或许是最秀的。

[–]Trail Blazers puffpuffpastor 826 points 21 hours ago*

I'm a Simmons fan and also don't think you have to have perfect form to be a great shooter so I'm hoping it all works out and he gets a solid jump shot... But it's pretty funny how his arms and release point are basically set up perfect if he was shooting right handed when he's actually shooting left lmao. All he'd have to do is change his hand position and shoot righty and people would be like damn his form looks pretty solid

开拓者球迷:我是西蒙斯的球迷,我也不认为你必须得有好的手型,才能成为一个出色的投手。所以我希望他这套能奏效,练一手靠谱的跳投出来……就视频中的内容来看,要是他用的是右手出球那他的手臂和出手点结合的还算是完美,可他其实用的却是左手投篮,哈哈哈,这还是蛮逗的。他只需要改变手的位置,用右手投篮,大家就会说“靠,他的投篮手型还蛮标准的啊”

[–]Wild Yams 368 points 20 hours ago

He's also clearly shooting college threes, not NBA ones, and we're only seeing the makes.

他这个视频里投的是大学三分,不是NBA三分,而且咱们只看到了他投进的这些球。

[–][DAL] Dirk Nowitzki Millionaire007 71 points 19 hours ago

That's how they sold people on the lonzo hype train

独行侠球迷:他们当初就是用这种视频吹鲍尔的。

[–]Hornets Kaminsky_For_MVP 118 points 19 hours ago

Except Lonzo shot well in college

黄蜂球迷:可是鲍尔在大学的投射确实还可以啊。

[–]Trail Blazers _Quetzalcoatlus_ 80 points 19 hours ago

Lonzo shot well on a very small sample of threes, while shooting awful from the line and mid-range. He also had to shoot from really deep because he can't hit even lightly contested jumpers because of his horrendous form.

His percentage from three was good, but he basically had every other possible red flag that he wouldn't be a good shooter.

开拓者球迷:鲍尔那会儿的投射还行那是因为三分的样本量很小,他当时的罚球和中距离一样菜。而且他的出手距离必须得很远,因为他只要碰到一丁点身体接触跳投就歇菜,毕竟他那手型没法看。

[–]Cavaliers lebron_games 15 points 19 hours ago

he also can't shoot without fading away

骑士球迷:还有啊,西蒙斯不后仰就没法投。

[–]Spurs LordChuKKleZ 28 points 19 hours ago

Like lebron

马刺球迷:像老詹。

[–]joprocess 33 points 18 hours ago

Funnily enough, lebron also shoots with his non dominant hand

有意思的是,詹姆斯的投篮手也不是他的惯用手。

[–]NBA WakandaFist 18 points 19 hours ago

He's ambidextrous and I think that's probably the source of his poor feel on form

西蒙斯可以左右开弓,也许这就是咱们觉得他手型怪的原因吧。

[–]Celtics teh_noob 49 points 18 hours ago

he's cross-dominant

if he were genuinely ambidextrous it wouldn't be a problem

凯尔特人球迷:他那是分不清惯用手。

要是他真能左右开弓,那就不会有投射的难题了。

[–]Pelicans TheNicerDiceSlicer 7 points 20 hours ago

Even if he took 30 jumpers in the game, which I doubt, he was still like 10/30.

鹈鹕球迷:要是他在比赛中跳投30次(尽管我很怀疑这种可能性),那他也能有个30中10的命中率。

[–][PHI] T.J. McConnellmahdingaling 222 points 20 hours ago

Obviously we all know he’s missing some, just the fact that he’s shooting them and looking confident doing it is bringing joyful tears to my eyes

76人球迷:的确,咱们都知道他会投丢不少,可是他只要能自信地出手,就足以让我开心地泪流满面。

[–]Warriors -PM_ME_NBA_MEMES- 14 points 23 hours ago

He's shooting much more like an actual lefty now, not perfect but at least he's not starting with his right foot forward as much

勇士球迷:他现在的出手比以前更像个真正的左撇子,不是很完美,不过他至少没那么频繁地用右脚往前试探了。

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[–][NYK] Eddy Curry JohnDurst 3 points 16 hours ago

I don’t see him shooting over average or within a couple percent of average, but if he actually starts to shoot open shots it’ll totally change his game.

People were literally sitting in the fucken paint in the playoffs when he had the ball at the top of the key lol, I haven’t seen that since early Rondo

尼克斯球迷:我不认为他的投篮命中率能接近平均线,不过他要是真的开始投那些空位了,那会完全改变他的比赛风格。

之前季后赛里他在三分弧顶持球时,对手全特么缩在油漆区里,哈哈哈,自打早期隆多之后,就没见过这种场面了。

[–]76ers buttyprofessor 11 points 22 hours ago

The 3s will come in time. It's those mid range fadeaways I'm hyped about for this season.

76人球迷:他的三分会及时出现的。真正让我对新赛季充满期待的是他的这些中距离撤步跳投。

[–]Spurs krsaxor 76 points 23 hours ago

If he develops his three, damn, he would be nasty.

马刺球迷:要是他开发了三分技能,靠,那就太变态了。

[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram xElectricW 6 points 23 hours ago

Once he gets comfortable shooting them in game the Sixers will be even heavier favorites, him and Joel would fit a lot better too with even just that little bit of extra spacing from Ben

湖人球迷:等他在比赛中投篮变得得心应手时,大家就会更加看好76人夺冠。只要他在场上能创造出那么一丢丢额外的空间,他和恩比德的搭档就会比现在强很多。

[–]Warriors galiji 4 points 22 hours ago

That is it guys. It is a wrap. Ben Simmons is my vote for MVP, FMVP, and MIP. Philly is going to win the chip.

勇士球迷:行了伙计们,大结局了。西蒙斯将会是我心中新赛季的MVP、FMVP和MIP,费城会赢得总冠军。

[–][LAL] Shaquille O'Neal SolarBeam12 57 points 23 hours ago

Ben Simmons is a top 10 player if he gets at least an average jumper.

湖人球迷:只要西蒙斯的跳投水平能达到平均线,那他的实力就能进联盟前十。

[–]ccRich_11 51 points 22 hours ago

He’s already top 15

他现在已经进了前15。

[–]thatbrownkid1616 49 points 20 hours ago

top 15 ? come on now, thats a strech lol

前15?别扯了,你这吹过了,哈哈哈

[–]Raptors HedonCalculator 18 points 22 hours ago

Did we watch the same playoffs for the last 2 years? You can't be top 15 and get completely dismantled in the most important games of the year where everyone actually tries their best.

猛龙球迷:说他前15的人,咱们这两个赛季的季后赛看的是一样的吗?他要真是前十五,就不会在每年最关键的人人拼尽全力的季后赛里被虐得体无完肤了。

[–]NBA WakandaFist 17 points 20 hours ago

LeBron, Steph, Kawhi, AD, Harden, Giannis, Embiid, Kyrie, Jokic, George, Lillard, Blake, Kemba, CJ, Butler.

This isn't even counting KD, Klay, or Wall when healthy.

U could argue Westbrook, CP3, and Beal too.

Which one of those guys is he supposed to be over rn?.

詹姆斯、库里、小卡、戴维斯、哈登、字母哥、恩比德、欧文、约基奇、乔治、利拉德、格里芬、沃克、麦科勒姆、巴特勒。

我这还没算受伤的阿杜、克莱和沃尔。

还有威少、保罗和比尔呢。

西蒙斯能比得过上面的谁?

[–]Booby_McTitties 18 points 18 hours ago

Of course Westbrook is above Simmons right now.

威少现在肯定是排在西蒙斯之前的。

[–]76ers BandwagonThatBull_cj 14 points 23 hours ago

We will see when the year starts, hitting shots in a pickup game really doesn’t mean anything to me

76人球迷:咱们还是等新赛季开始再看吧,我觉得在这种训练赛里进球真的不算啥。

[–]76ers IVAN_CLEARY 5 points 14 hours ago

It is time for you to hop off the bandwagon and change your flair

76人球迷:那你换个主队标识吧。

[–]Knicks DRosesTrainConducter 218 points 23 hours ago

This sub has trained me to expect titles like this to be the opposite of what’s happening and that this would be him bricking shots like crazy

尼克斯球迷:在这个专区待多了之后我已经训练有素了,看到“西蒙斯在训练中屡屡命中三分”这种标题反而会让人期待相反的结果,他以后或许会疯狂打铁。

[–]HolyAty 117 points 23 hours ago

That's for Lonzo.

这是针对鲍尔的。

[–]Niners 19WinsIn19 140 points 22 hours ago

Lonzo is this Subreddit's version of 50/50.

Lonzo with the deep 3 will either be an airball or him swishing a 30 footer. Nothing in-between.

Lonzo with a sick pass will either be Lonzo nutmegging 4 defenders with a blindfold on or throwing the ball into the 5th row.

鲍尔在这儿还真一半对一半。

“鲍尔远距离三分”的结果要么是三不沾,要么是飚中一记30英尺远投。没有中间值。

“鲍尔送出一记骚传”的结果要么是他不看人穿裆戏耍4名防守人,要么是把球扔到观众席第五排。

[–]TheFacelessMerk 53 points 21 hours ago

Lonzo is so weird though. He can make a really sick play and make it look easy and then a more often occurrence is him out there airballing layups. So you never really know what you are going to get

鲍尔这个球员确实诡异。他可以闲庭信步地送出妙传,也没少把空篮上丢。所以你没法知道他会有怎样的发挥。

[–]76ers CptGingeraffe 14 points 20 hours ago

He's a modern day Javale McGee

76人球迷:他就是新生代的麦基。

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[–]itsallgood1523 298 points 23 hours ago

Still a really slow release... but there’s been quite a few improvements

他的出手确实还是慢……不过投篮已经有很大进步了。

[–]joprocess 8 points 22 hours ago

Reminds me of Blake's release. Both shoot on the way down

让我想起了格里芬。两人都是在下落时出手。

[–]Raptors tkbchimyjr18 15 points 20 hours ago

His old release tho. He doesn't shoot like that anymore

猛龙球迷:那是格里芬原来的出手风格。现在不这样了。

[–][CLE] Ricky Davis Kid_Kryp-to-nite 107 points 22 hours ago

It's like BroLo slow lol. But they're about the same height and defenses aren't even guarding him anymore on the perimeter so if he can just be a threat that would open up so much for him and his teammates.

Pretty hyped to watch the Sixers next season.

骑士球迷:西蒙斯的出手像是慢动作的大洛佩兹。不过他俩身高差不太多,而且对手甚至不会在外线派人跟着西蒙斯,所以哪怕有那么一点外线威慑力,都能为自己和队友拉开很多进攻空间。

很期待新赛季的76人啊。

[–][NOP] Jrue Holiday e_a_blair 41 points 19 hours ago

I want to make it very clear I'm not a 76ers fan, or even really particularly rooting for him, and I want to make that clear when I state the following belief of mine: I feel if he can become even just a credible outside threat (30-33%), he almost immediately becomes a top 10 player.

鹈鹕球迷:申明一点,我不是76人球迷,甚至也不会特意去支持西蒙斯。但是我得强调我的观点:我觉得只要他的外线威慑力还凑合(30%-33%),那他几乎可以立马成为一名前十级别的球员。

[–]76ers Rockandrollracing 121 points 23 hours ago

Shooting them is a 1,000,000% increase though! I’m so thrilled at this.

76人球迷:他能出手就是天大的进步了!我可高兴坏咯

[–]Bulls super_sayanything 33 points 22 hours ago

As long as he can hit an open one, will tremendously help the 6ers.

公牛球迷:只要他能命中一记空位跳投,那就能给予76人极大的帮助。

[–]76ers Rockandrollracing 17 points 21 hours ago

Good point. Even if they don’t have to play him too close, if Ben can pull up and hit an open shot they can no longer sag off the way they have.

76人球迷:说得好,即便对手不必把西蒙斯贴得太紧,可要是西蒙斯能命中一记空位急停,那对手也不敢像以前一样往里收了。

[–]niceforwat 4 points 20 hours ago

he's not going to be shooting 3's over people... he just needs to be able to hit wide open ones enough for the defense to respect it

西蒙斯不会顶着防守人投三分的……他只要投大空位三分,这就足以让对方的防线予以重视了。

[–]IguessthatsAname 11 points 22 hours ago

That jumpshot looks...exactly like Lebrons

他那跳投姿势看着……真像詹姆斯

[–]mhfy 68 points 21 hours ago

No it doesn’t

并不像

[–][ATL] John Collins FalconsHawksBulldogs 25 points 20 hours ago

Lmao I’m not sure how people think that looks like Bron’s form. It’s not even close imo

老鹰球迷:哈哈哈,我都不知道为啥有人觉得那像詹姆斯的手型。我觉得压根不沾边啊。

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