Lost in all the craziness of Luka Doncic, Trae Young has also taken a massive leap in his sophomore year and is averaging 28.7ppg with 8.4apg
Luka Doncic has rightfully been receiving a lot of hype this season, but in his second year Trae Young has improved his stats from:
19.1ppg to 28.7ppg
3.7rpg to 4.0rpg
8.1apg to 8.4apg
41.8%FG to 46.3%FG
32.4%3PT to 39.3%3PT
82.9%FT to 85.3%FT
He’s been almost the sole bright spot for the Hawks and he is so fun to watch. He’s a fantastic player and I’m excited to see him develop further.
[–]Raptors pacpacpac 145 指標 19小時前
He's an all-star in the East
[–]Hawks Juganator 46 指標 8小時前
I said at the beginning of the year Trae and Siakam are first time all stars.
[–]Math Simon88 12 指標 3小時前
Siakam is definitely an All-Star. To be fair, Trae has the stats, but I suppose he needs a bit more wins to get in. Well no one can tell.
[–]Thunder IsThisGenericEnough 56 指標 19小時前
Some of the best highlights I’ve seen he just pulls off stuff he shouldn’t be able to
[–]Mavericks lost_in_trepidation 26 指標 10小時前
He's relentless. I've seen some comments that he's just on a bad team so he's the only option, but he would be this good on any team, if not better.
He always shares the ball, his team just doesn't deliver at all.
[–]Hawks KokiriEmerald 13 指標 10小時前
Yeah he would be so much better if we had someone to draw the attention away. Only reason his FG% was not higher last year is cause every drive he'd be met by multiple people at the rim. John and Kevin coming back will help him out later this year.
[–]Raptors bbqyak 814 指標 19小時前
Mans out here averaging 28 and 8 in his second year with crazy 3s and all everyone can say is he isn't as good as Luka. Ffs.
[–]Raptors Closer586 107 指標 19小時前
It's crazy how Luka is the bar for being a good sophmore, he should be an outlier not the rule. Trae's numbers and offensive impact are incredible for a second year player. People are way too jumpy to bring up wins, Trae is the reason they are winning any games in the first place.
[–]Lakers cjsrhkcjs 28 指標 18小時前
People from the old times probably compared every rookie/sophomore of 84' and '03 to MJ/LeBron's standards huh3
[–]Celtics DoomBarDetective 12 指標 7小時前
It’s pretty simple.
Doncic is winning and the Hawks have one of the worst records in the league.
[–]Rockets WrexEverything 579 指標 18小時前
He's clearly fantastic, but putting up stats on bad teams never gets much attention. I dont think its bias against trae, its just bias against good players on bad teams I suppose. Its just how its always been.
[–][DAL] Dan Dickau Juniper41 288 指標 18小時前
Yep. For every Devin Booker, Nikola Vucevic, Blake Griffin Minnesota Kevin Love, you get twice as many Stephon Marbury, Antoine Walker, Michael Carter Williams, Mike James, Marcus Morris empty stats on bad team types.
For better or worse, player stats will only be validated by winning.
[–][LAL] Brandon Ingram AdzBoogie 190 指標 18小時前
When you're doing it efficiently, that's more than empty stats.
[–][DAL] Dan Dickau Juniper41 139 指標 18小時前
For sure, which is why I'm lumping him in with the Booker/Vucevic/Griffin/Love group and not the Walker/Marbury group. That being said most fans and analysts want wins until they hype up a player.
[–]Nigeria Okoba27 31 指標 13小時前
Marbury was nice he just had an ego problem.
[–]kaskoosek 45 指標 15小時前
Marbury wasnt that bad though. You cant compare him to nash or kidd but he wasnt trash like walker.
[–]Lakers Vaccaria_ 7 指標 4小時前
That's NBA Champion Antoine Walker.
[–]GnRgr2 13 指標 16小時前
What separates Booker and Trae?
[–][CHI] Cameron Payne Cousin_SadBoy 83 指標 14小時前
Trae’s a top-tier passer. Not that Booker’s bad and I think his rep has been hurt by playing for a completely incompetent organization but Trae is on another level as a distributor.
[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 14 指標 6小時前
He's also more efficient than booker was early in his career. Booker is now very efficient but wasn't so earlier
[–]Suns zephah 12 指標 15小時前
The most common criticism I heard of Booker outside of empty stats was that people hate what he looks like
So maybe people don't hate what Trae looks like
[–]Suns zephah 7 指標 8小時前
It’s something I’ve read on here a lot. There was even a thread last year about “who has the most punchable face” and Book was the 2nd highest in the thread, only behind Grayson Allen
[–]Helhiem 12 指標 10小時前
People hate the look of Devin Booker. What?
[–][CHI] Jimmy Butler NotoriousVader 21 指標 10小時前
tbf he’s weird looking
[–]NBA nomad80 599 指標 19小時前
im just happy there is so much young talent rn. future's bright for the league
[–]Celtics AffectionateZombie 184 指標 18小時前
Loved seeing that it was the first month in NBA history with two International players winning ECF/WCF player of the month (Luka Giannis).
Basketball is just a great sport
[–]NBA nomad80 47 指標 17小時前
As an international fan, agree 100%
[–]Lakers cjsrhkcjs 34 指標 18小時前
I mean, regardless of their current team records, these two guys are pretty much confirmed to be a big part of the future NBA 5+ years later. Might as well get used to them.
[–]Mavericks StefonDiggsHS 16 指標 8小時前
Trae is a great player and it’s fucking shameful media and some people just talk about him and compare him to Luka.
If the hawks weee 15-6 like us these Luka Vs Trae conversations would be much different
[–]Mavericks PubicAnimeNummerJuan 88 指標 19小時前
I have to admit I haven't watched the Hawks this season, but I want to just to see Ice Trae. His jump in production is pretty remarkable. I figured his efficiency would improve and bump his scoring, but not to this degree - 28/8 is pretty great any way you cut it. I've got no beef with Hawksbros and hope Trae is a stud for them for a long time; I hate the bullshit Luka/Trae feud. Just appreciate Trae for what he's doing.
[–]Hawks Coachpatato 34 指標 11小時前
Yeah I agree. I just wish we could get one thread about Trae where Luka isn't mentioned every other comment. I realize I'm guilty of it now but Luka's performance has no impact on the Hawks or Trae and vice versa.
[–]Lakers mkmore4 223 指標 19小時前
Nobody cares because they suck.
[–]Rockets makashiII_93 25 指標 8小時前
Great stats. Bad team.
John Collins murdered their season. His return is one of the few remaining interesting things about their lost season.
[–]afterworld2772 8 指標 6小時前
In this case though the assists are impressive because Hawks are bad. He is getting 8 a game when his best option is Jabari Parker. Plus its not like the other teams feel sorry for him and just let him score, he is earning his buckets
[–]Zenyx_ 35 指標 9小時前
He's one of the worst defenders in the NBA...
[–]Heat NotAThrowaway1413 3 指標 5小時前
[–]Lakers ashishvp 6 指標 7小時前
It's lost because the Hawks are losing. Simple as that really.
Get my mans some help, Atlanta! That's all you gotta do now and yall got a perennial contender
[–]Choponchip 60 指標 15小時前*
And here is the crazy thing - Trae’s stats should be better. That 8.1-8.4 apg jump should be even higher.
Trae is 3rd in the league in assists with Jabari Parker as the hawks second option and there is a large drop off in production after Jabari. All of the other players that are top 5 in assists have waaaay better scoring options around them than Trae does.
If John Collins and Kevin Huerter weren’t missing large chunks of the season and the Hawks were playing to their highest ceiling(7th or 8th seed or just barely missing the playoffs) I think Trae’s numbers would look something like this:
[–]Hawks Coachpatato 11 指標 11小時前
Yeah I agree. It's sad seeing him throw these oops for missed when you know John Collins would be damn near breaking backboards on these.
[–]Hawks stdfan 29 指標 11小時前
Imagine if Len could catch or finish. Or if anyone could shoot.
[–][BKN] Vince Carter JeffKaplanIsDaddy 114 指標 20小時前
He's like Kemba in Charlotte and Russ in OKC
They have 5, maybe 6 years to put a good team around him or he's gone
[–][NYK] Nate Robinson TheKnicksHateMe 173 指標 19小時前
both of those guys spent a lot more than 5 years on those teams lol.
[–][BKN] Vince Carter JeffKaplanIsDaddy 21 指標 19小時前
kemba spent 8 years there because Charlotte didn't trade him in his expiring season. with how players conduct free agency now I could definitely see trae getting fed up and asking for a trade with 1 or 2 years left in his 5 year rookie max. Russ is a rare breed with how loyal he was to OKC and signed multiple extensions with them
[–]Pengweeno87 50 指標 16小時前
OKC wasn't exactly a losing franchise during westbrook's tenure either
[–][BKN] Vince Carter JeffKaplanIsDaddy 30 指標 19小時前
trae is in year 2
I mean 5 or 6 years from now where he'll be in years 7 and 8
[–]deeznutz_428 31 指標 19小時前
He was drafted two years ago chill out lmao
[–][LAL] Michael Cooper shiny_lustrous_poo 6 指標 19小時前
He wasn't saying they weren't going to do it, just noting that he has the kind of talent that shouldn't be wasted on a bad team. If atl is not moving in the right direction in 6 years, why would he stay?
[–]76ers NotJoeyWheeler 21 指標 19小時前
When you have a young star though, the goal is basically to get their team locked in before their max extension kicks in, so you can go into the luxury tax with the best possible usage of your cap space to contend for a couple of years. That’s the main reason the Sixers have gone “all in” in the past 2 years, not because they doubt Embiid’s health or see a window or something, it’s because they had to get their guys before signing Simmons to his max.
[–]_Than0s 18 指標 11小時前
I get Luka is a once-in-a-generation talent but Hawks didn’t get as robbed as people think they did. I really think they scored with Trae. Even with his lack of defensive presence.
[–]USA Generalocity 9 指標 16小時前
Let’s hold on a minute here - are you guys forgetting about the other part of basketball called defense? Buddy can hit all the shots he wants and still not win because pretty much any guard in the league can get past him, PnR on him all day, or break his ankles/fake him out.
He’s proven to be a reliable scorer on good efficiency, but I think he really needs to improve his 2 way game to become a star.
[–]Rockets CJ4ROCKET 3 指標 8小時前
The same can be said about plenty of superstar guards. The onus now is on the FO and coaching staff to construct a roster/scheme that can hide his defensive flaws, much like other successful teams in the NBA. Sure it would be great if he's an all world defender, and he certainly needs to improve some, but being a plus defender isn't critical so long as the FO and coaching staff is competent.
[–]jboggin 5 指標 7小時前
I agree that being a plus defender isn't necessary for a team to be good. But in the games I've watch, Trae isn't even in the below average range yet. He's been pretty terrible at defense. If he doesn't get better, it's going to continue to be a huge problem for the Hawks.
[–]ironmanwatcher2 2 指標 6小時前
I was wrong about Trae, he’s playing incredibly in his 2nd year. I thought he was too small and skinny to succeed, but this guy can really play. He’s really smart and crafty.
I’d like to see how he does in the playoffs, where they plan for him - that seems to be the indicator of a really great player (according to other pro players). Teams will make a strategy to stop him and put him in awkward spots and force him to have to do more on defense.
[–]Mavericks PubicAnimeNummerJuan 17 指標 16小時前
Calling Luka a good defender is a bit of a stretch. When he's locked in he can do surprisingly well, but sometimes the effort isn't there, and he's just not quick enough to stay in front of a lot of guys. I mean hell, Carlisle frequently hides him on the other team's weakest wing rather than have him guard other star PGs.
[–]NBA 5ive5tar 12 指標 15小時前
Luka's lapses is Trae's best night defensively. That's how bad he is. He's literally the worst defender in the league, look at it. Watch him, ask a Hawk fan.