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[Post Game Thread] New Orleans Pelicans (5-9) defeat Portland Trailblazers (5-10) by 115 - 104.

【赛后帖】新奥尔良鹈鹕(5胜9负)今天在主场以115-104轻取波特兰开拓者(5胜10负)。

霍乐迪22分5篮板10助攻,英格拉姆21分7篮板5助攻2断1帽,雷迪克18分5篮板2助攻,梅利14分6篮板4助攻3断,摩尔11分4篮板,海耶斯9分7篮板2断3帽,肯里奇-威廉姆斯8分14篮板3断1帽1助攻;安东尼10分4篮板1帽,麦科勒姆22分4篮板5助攻2断1帽,怀特塞德14分14篮板1帽,安芬尼-西蒙斯13分3篮板4助攻,利特尔12分11篮板2帽1断,贝兹莫尔11分4助攻3篮板,胡德8分5篮板4助攻1断。

Carmelo Anthony ends his season debut with 10/4/0 on 4-14 on a game low -20 on the floor

安东尼赛季首秀仅有14中4,正负值-20全场最低。

Damn, they really benched him at the end of the game despite being down by nearly 20. That has to be an absolute confidence killer for melo

擦,开拓者后面都落后将近20分了居然还让安东尼坐板凳,这绝对会打击他的信心。

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[–]Knicks zoo32 64 指標 4小時前

+/- of -20 on 29% shooting with 0 assists and 5 TO. Welcome back Melo, it’s like you never left!

尼克斯球迷:正负值-20,命中率29%,0助攻,5次失误。欢迎回归啊,甜瓜,感觉你从未离开过!

[–]TheBlind Salesman 63 指標 4小時前

Based on all the front page highlights I thought Melo tore it up! Then I see that the Trailblazers lost, Carmelo had a team worst (+-) with a bunch of turnovers, and was wondering what was going on! It’s going to be interesting to see if Melo can get back up to NBA speed.

看了这场比赛之前首页的那些集锦,我以为甜瓜这次回来要狠狠打脸!然后我看到开拓者输球了,甜瓜的正负值全队最低,还有好几个失误,这到底是咋回事呢!有意思咯,甜瓜这次回归到底能不能赶上NBA的节奏呢,咱们拭目以待!

[–][TOR] Pascal Siakam IThinkItMovedJerry 136 指標 5小時前

Give him time, Rome wasn't built in one day.

猛龙球迷:再给他点时间,罗马可不是一天建成的

[–][GSW] Kevon Looney Helicase21 660 指標 5小時前

keep building brick by brick

勇士球迷:接着打铁就行了

[–]Lakers Jayveesac 122 指標 5小時前

How many Romes has he built now with all the bricks he's thrown

湖人球迷:甜瓜打得这么多铁,不知道已经能建多少个罗马城了

[–]Raptors rsrsrsrs 32 指標 5小時前

700

猛龙球迷:700座

[–]DMThorn 188 指標 4小時前

Almost forgot why he was out of the league for over a year.

差点都忘了当初他为啥一年多没法在联盟打上球

[–]Rockets bauboish 30 指標 4小時前

Theres a reason why NBA teams prefer crappy role players over him. His entire career he has never ever done stuff that role players do. It's not like he can somehow learn to do that stuff now when hes in his mid 30s. Most ball dominant stars dont age like Vince Carter.

火箭球迷:这些NBA球队宁要那些蹩脚的角色球员也不要甜瓜也是有理由的。他整个职业生涯从未做过角色球员的事。他现在都30多了,学不会那些的。大多数要球权的球星都不是像卡特这样越老越妖的。

[–]kungfoojesus 7 指標 4小時前

Honestly, if you continue hiring him you deserve to get Melo’d

说真的,如果你还用甜瓜,那你的球队活该被瓜化。

[–]foamrollmyback 2921 指標 4小時前

His Defense is literally just telling other teammates to guard his man lmaoo

安东尼的防守基本就是指挥队友去防守他的人,笑死我了

[–]Warriors procrastinator67 168 指標 4小時前

Bro I do this at the gym every time, Blazers could get me much cheaper.

勇士球迷:老哥,我每次在体育馆打球也是这样。那开拓者可以用便宜得多的价钱签我啊

[–][CLE] Sasha Pavlovic TiksonBobikson 1083 指標 4小時前

Pelicans' first possession, Melo lost his guy, and he grabbed an offensive board lol.

骑士球迷:鹈鹕的第一个进攻回合,甜瓜跟丢了人,后者还抢了一个进攻篮板,哈哈哈

[–][NYK] David Lee CaptainKirkHinrich 720 指標 4小時前

That’s the craziest part to me. His guy was in the corner. It’s not like he was running around. Melo just straight up ignored him and missed the box out lmao

尼克斯球迷:这就是最扯的。他的人在底角,他自己也不跑,就直接无视对方,然后还不卡位。

[–]Bucks mommainsanedaddyOG 157 指標 3小時前

Ehh I’m willing to forgive a guy who has had an entire like 4 days to learn their offense and defense. NBA defenses are way more complex than most people realize

雄鹿球迷:呃,他才用了4天左右的时间来熟悉开拓者的攻防啊,NBA的防守要比大多数人理解的要复杂得多啊,甜瓜这表现情有可原。

[–]Lakers eunit8899 121 指標 3小時前

You shouldn't forgive lack of effort.

湖人球迷:不努力还有啥情有可原的

[–]Holy Aty 454 指標 3小時前*

Boxing out is not something you learn with your new team after 15 years of professional basketball.

你都打了15年职业篮球了,难道还要在新球队学卡位吗?!

[–]Mavericks Liyarity 193 指標 2小時前

He doesn’t have 15 years of experience playing professional defense though.

独行侠球迷:可是他打职业防守的经验并没有15年啊……

[–]Wizards AchillesFury 50 指標 2小時前

Rookie of the Year!

奇才球迷:好个年度最佳新秀!

[–]Nuggets Boustan 85 指標 3小時前

He has come back and played exactly like the melo we saw the last 3 years before the year off. Horrible black hole offence, and literally no effort on defense. I honestly think from an impact standpoint (number of shots, minutes, +-) he may now be one of the worst players in the NBA (if not the worst).

掘金球迷:这次回归的甜瓜打得和上赛季之前那三个赛季的甜瓜一模一样。进攻黑洞,防守不出力。说真的,从比赛影响力(出手次数、出场时间、正负值)来说,我觉得甜瓜或许是现在NBA里最菜的球员之一。

[–][SAS] Manu Ginobili camfa 30 指標 2小時前

Worse of it all, his attitude didn't seem to change a bit. I saw him laughing after he got an offensive foul, as if thinking really bro, you call that on me? a Superstar? . I hope I'm wrong, peak Melo was an offensive beast, but his NBA days seem to be over.

马刺球迷:最惨的是,他的态度貌似一点都没变。我看到他被吹进攻犯规之后居然还笑,好像在说“认真的吗老哥,你吹我?我可是超巨啊”。希望是我多想了吧,巅峰期的安东尼进攻超猛,可是他的NBA岁月似乎到头了。

[–]phantom_thief00 86 指標 3小時前

He's done. Funny when people are genuinely curious why people hate on Melo and don't give him a chance. This guy has received multiple chance and this looks to be his very last one and he can't even give any sort of effort on D lol.

他就这样了。搞人的是,居然还有人真不懂为啥大家会喷甜瓜,不给他机会。这老哥得到的机会够多了,这次可能就是他最后一次机会了,可是他在防守的时候居然还是不肯出一点力,呵呵呵。

[–]Raptors mug3n 16 指標 3小時前

I don't think he's lazy. I think he's washed. he can't keep up anymore. this ain't nuggets or knicks melo, he's lost more than a few steps.

猛龙球迷:我觉得他也不是懒,他就是不行了。跟不上节奏了。这已经不是那个掘金或者尼克斯时期的甜瓜了,他缺少的可不止是那几步。

[–]theperfectalt5 45 指標 2小時前

He had/has no desire to work on any part of his game forever. 14 shots in 23mins in his debut, 0 defense.

That should be 4 shots and average defense

他一直这样,永远都没那个改善自己打法的欲望。首秀23分钟居然投了14次,0防守。

这本该是4次出手,防守凑合的。

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[–][LAL] Lonzo Ball oshapls 677 指標 4小時前

Warriors and Blazers faced each other in WCF and they are now the bottomfeeders of the West.

湖人球迷:勇士和开拓者上赛季西决相遇,现在都在西部下游混生活咯

[–]Wizards makingsomeeggs 155 指標 4小時前

Warriors are at least winning right now

奇才球迷:至少勇士今天还赢球了

[–]Rockets AccidentalBeans 161 指標 4小時前

The Warriors are 2-12 right now.

火箭球迷:勇士现在才2胜12负呢

[–]Lakers Skorua 74 指標 4小時前

The warriors have 2 all stars and the number 1 draft pick waiting

湖人球迷:他们还有2个全明星和一个状元签在等着呢

[–]Bucks CompleteSpud 66 指標 3小時前

number 1 draft pick

laughs in spurs

雄鹿球迷:“一个状元签”

马刺笑了

[–]Spurs 713_ToThe_832 46 指標 4小時前

The blazers won't be bottom feeders, they'll stay afloat with dame playing at an MVP level and they have a fuckton of home games in december + they play some pretty bad east teams coming up. As long as dame isn't seriously hurt they'll hang around and when they get Collins/Nurkic back they'll go on some crazy winning streaks

I still think they're making the playoffs for sure

马刺球迷:开拓者可不是那种下游讨生活的队。要是利拉德打出MVP级别的表现,他们还能跟上大部队,而且他们12月很多主场,接下来还要打一些东部的菜鸡。只要利拉德伤病没啥大碍,他们就能跟上,等到柯林斯和努尔基奇回来,他们会开启一波连胜的。

我仍然觉得开拓者进季后赛很稳。

[–]Trail Blazers irelli 67 指標 4小時前

We're probably not making the playoffs.

Just too injured too early and guys aren't coming back until it's too late to make up for it.

开拓者球迷:也许咱们进不了季后赛。

这会儿就这么多伤病了,而且有些球员复出的时候都很晚了,那时候就于事无补了。

[–]Spurs J-ROCK88 51 指標 5小時前

Who turns it around first? Spurs, Blazers, or Pelicans??

马刺,鹈鹕,开拓者,这三个队谁会最先翻身?

[–]Trail Blazers JarekBloodDragon 25 指標 5小時前

Who ever gets healthy first

开拓者球迷:那就看谁先恢复健康了

[–]Pelicans LookLikeUpToMe 69 指標 5小時前

I feel like we are getting there.

鹈鹕球迷:感觉我们的好日子要来了

[–]Raptors ZeroMomentum 9 指標 3小時前

Jrue killed it in the second half.

猛龙球迷:霍乐迪今天下半场爆发了

[–]Pelicans Andtheyrustledsoftly 49 指標 5小時前

We’ve won 4 of our last 6

鹈鹕球迷:我们过去6场赢了4场

[–]Nuggets TheThingsIdoatNight 17 指標 3小時前

Plus y’all got Zion incoming, my moneys on you

掘金球迷:而且锡安也要回来了,我看好你们

[–]Pelicans dullscissor1 15 指標 5小時前

A healthy Pelicans team is a six seed in the west

鹈鹕球迷:一支健康的鹈鹕就是西部第六

[–]carl73833 596 指標 5小時前

Let's be honest

The only reason anyone was watching a Blazers-Pelicans game on a Tuesday evening was to see Melo

咱们实事求是吧,大家在周二晚看这场开拓者打鹈鹕的唯一原因就是安东尼

[–]Rockets IWonFriendsWithSalad 14 指標 4小時前

Excuse me, but I can watch POR-NO every day of the week.

火箭球迷:说啥呢,我可以每天看开拓者打鹈鹕

[–]Thunder pig_says_woo 20 指標 5小時前

I like seeing Portland suck with or without melo. And jrue holiday

雷霆球迷:不管有没有甜瓜,我都想看波特兰输球。还有霍乐迪打球

[–][NOP] JJ Redick OhhWowzers 36 指標 5小時前

I was watching for my boy

鹈鹕球迷:我就想看我们这帮年轻人表现

[–]Lakers rawchess 215 指標 5小時前

Watched it for BI and Jrue.

湖人球迷:我看这场比赛是冲着英格拉姆和霍乐迪的

[–][CHA] Malik Monk CLTwolf 45 指標 5小時前

Those dudes can ball. When Zion and Lonzo get back they are definitely playoff caliber

黄蜂球迷:鹈鹕这帮人能打的。等到锡安和鲍尔回来,他们肯定是季后赛级别的

[–]Bulls Creditworthy 15 指標 4小時前

I agree with you man. The young guys are all clearly starting to mesh. Great communication on defense tonight which was a big change from earlier games. Ingram is playing like an all star so far, and Hayes brings so much energy. However I think they are going to be extremely cautious bringing Zion back, and think they need him to be a stud and plus defender if they are going to make the playoffs.

公牛球迷:我认同你的观点。这些年轻人明显开始形成默契了。今晚在防守端的交流做得很棒,这比起赛季开头的比赛变化很大了。莺歌目前为止打得跟个全明星一样,海耶斯也很有活力。不过呢,我觉得等到锡安回来之后,鹈鹕必须得极为谨慎。如果他们想进季后赛,那锡安得打出神勇表现,而且防守也不能落下。

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[–][SAS] Dejounte Murray desubeast 154 指標 5小時前

No way Melo makes it to January lmfao

马刺球迷:哈哈哈哈,甜瓜肯定撑不到1月

[–]Raptors rookie-mistake 59 指標 5小時前

at this rate idk if he'll make it to december

猛龙球迷:照这么下去,不知道他能不能撑到12月

[–][DAL] Seth Curry Rain_On_Them 25 指標 5小時前

He might get the 10 day treatment if he plays like this from here on out

独行侠球迷:如果还这么打,那也许就是份10天的短工

[–]Raptors chiefwakaflocka 52 指標 5小時前

NBA Fans: BRING BACK MELO OR WE RIOT

NBA Fans after Melo returns: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

猛龙球迷:NBA球迷:把甜瓜签回来,不然我们要造反啦!

等到甜瓜回来之后,NBA球迷:不要啊!!!!!

[–]you_cant_ban_me_fool 262 指標 4小時前

Are the Blazers that desperate?

It’s crazy how fast Melo went from ‘I ain’t no bench player’ to out of the league to back being a starter and soon back out of the league...

开拓者绝望吗?

甜瓜从当初说“我可不是啥板凳球员”到在联盟混不下去,接着回来打了首发,很快又要淡出联盟,这可真是疯狂啊……

[–]Jazz MrMojoRiseman 30 指標 3小時前

They were giving Hezonja real minutes, so yes

爵士球迷:开拓者都让海佐尼亚打了那么长时间了,所以肯定是绝望的

[–]Trail Blazers PM_ME_UR_SKILLS 12 指標 2小時前

This guy gets it

开拓者球迷:楼上的懂球啊

[–][MIA] Chris Bosh KXE5 1234 指標 5小時前

He didn’t get benched. They said all along that he was gonna play ~20 minutes

热火球迷:甜瓜这场比赛末段没打不是教练按着不让他上。毕竟开拓者之前就说了甜瓜只会打20分钟。

[–]MarshalThornton 95 指標 4小時前

Also he had 5 fouls

而且他当时都5犯了

[–]Warriors LeBronHatesFreedom 95 指標 4小時前

I'm sure his performance didn't help.

勇士球迷:我确信教练不让他打的原因是因为他的表现

[–][PHO] Steve Nash yuhanz 34 指標 4小時前

To limit the damage he causes

太阳球迷:为了减少他造成的伤害

[–]DrKersh 514 指標 4小時前

phew, imagine if he played 35 minutes, -45 and 6 of 25

咦,要是他真打了35分钟,那正负值就是-45,25中6

[–]Rockets aboooz 969 指標 5小時前

He just refuses to guard shooters and doesnt make up for it on the offensive end. I dont see how he benifits the Blazers at all.

火箭球迷:安东尼就是不愿意去防对方的投手啊,进攻端又不能找回来。我真不知道他怎么帮助这支开拓者

[–]Warriors WickedFierce1 1144 指標 4小時前

He was letting people by and not helping on defense. I expected a better defensive effort from him. I don't know why. Probably because anyone in their last chance would give their best. Not him.

勇士球迷:他就放任对手从身前走过,防守端帮不上忙。原本我还指望他防守时能更努力点。也不知道是为啥。也许是因为任何球员拿到最后一次机会都会尽全力吧,可安东尼不是

[–][SAS] Boban Marjanovic CaptObvious420 553 指標 4小時前

Melo gets his long-awaited last chance, and the first thing he does is make a documentary where he talks about how he had to think about it.

I’d love to be wrong, but I don’t think he grew much from this lapse in employment.

马刺球迷:甜瓜这个最后的机会等了这么久,可他做的第一件事就是发布个纪录片,谈论自己的心路历程……

希望是我错了吧,可我真觉得他没有吸取教训。

[–]phantom_thief00 49 指標 3小時前

Not easy to change. Dwight is an exception but it took him nearly a decade.

做出改变不容易啊。霍华德是个例外,可他也是花了将近10年时间才琢磨清楚啊

[–]Lakers crisvincent 80 指標 2小時前*

The difference is Howard always played hard on defense. The problem with Howard before was that he would get discouraged if his touches were limited. Melo, on the other hand, was never known for playing hard on defense.

湖人球迷:区别在于霍华德防守端一直都很卖力。霍华德以前的毛病是,要是手感被限制住了他就会泄气。甜瓜呢,谁都知道他防守不努力。

[–]Lakers Pacific_Marlin 68 指標 2小時前

the point is he's changed his ways and adapted, unlike what we saw from Melo tonight

湖人球迷:重点是,霍华德改变了风格做出了调整,不过我们今晚看到的甜瓜

[–]Pistons Jaerba 91 指標 4小時前

His defense was the reason he was cut before. He was starting to play like a spot up shooter. But he's probably one of the worst 10 defenders in the league at this point.

活塞球迷:甜瓜以前被裁就是因为他的防守。他现在开始当一个定点投手,可他也许是现在联盟里防守最菜的10个人之一。

[–]Hornets BatumTss 21 指標 3小時前

A spot up shooter needs to play defense period, otherwise they have no business starting, especially if it's a contender. And Melo isn't even that efficient for a shooting role, you can easily find a good shooter outside of the league as well.

黄蜂球迷:定点投手也要防守啊,不然凭啥打首发呢,尤其是在一支想进季后赛的球队里。即便是投手这个角色,甜瓜也没那么高效,NBA之外的好投手可不少啊

[–]Warriors LeBronHatesFreedom 278 指標 4小時前

He's 35, this is his best.

勇士球迷:他35了,这场比赛他尽力了

[–]Raptors MMPride 305 指標 4小時前

Kyle Lowry has entered the chat

Lebron James has entered the chat

猛龙球迷:洛瑞进入了群聊。

詹姆斯进入了群聊。

[–]Raptors ProfessorBeast55 222 指標 4小時前

Vince Carter has entered the chat

猛龙球迷:卡特也进入了群聊

[–][GSW] Baron Davis johanan9107 48 指標 3小時前

You seen Korver at least try to hustle on defense during his stint with the Cavs?

Korver was fucking 36, you'd expect Melo to at least show the same effort.

勇士球迷:你看看科沃尔,人家在骑士的时候,防守端至少是很拼的。

科沃尔那会儿都特么36了啊,甜瓜至少可以和他一样拼吧。

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[–]NBA bondom3417 310 指標 5小時前

I know Melo gets crap for his defense, but honestly what's Whiteside's excuse?

甜瓜的防守活该被喷,可是说真的,白边能找啥借口呢?

[–]OculusBlurr 97 指標 5小時前

Melo actually tried is what I’ll give him. Whiteside just stares

我觉得甜瓜还是做出了努力的。可白边防守就是目送

[–]Lunar_Melody 164 指標 4小時前

Did you watch the game today? Melo was a non-entity on defense, literally 90% of plays he stood in the corner and did nothing.

你今天看比赛了吗?甜瓜在防守端就是个累赘啊,几乎90%的回合就站在底角啥也不干

[–]Bulls Creditworthy 71 指標 4小時前

He was so slow on rotations. Gave up open 3's. There's a reason he had the worst plus minus on the squad tonight.

公牛球迷:轮转时他太慢了。放着对手投控卫三分,不然怎么得到的最低正负值

[–]Heat Slipin 85 指標 5小時前

I am so glad we dumped Whiteside.

热火球迷:幸亏我们之前甩掉了怀特塞德

[–]Trail Blazers frontpagedestined 37 指標 4小時前

hes so bad..

开拓者球迷:他太烂了……

[–]Trail Blazers Dgeneratte 14 指標 5小時前

He is the biggest disappointment. I really hope a trade happens soon

开拓者球迷:他是最让人失望的。真希望能早点把他交易走

[–][MIA] Wayne Ellington JewRepublican69 15 指標 4小時前

AND WE GOT MEYERS TOO!!!!

热火球迷:我们还得到了迈尔斯-伦纳德呢!!!

[–][TOR] Pascal Siakam MrGrieves- 5 指標 3小時前

Really hope he doesn't get a big contract from you guys.

猛龙球迷:真希望开拓者不会给白边大合同……

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