Buddy Hield: You guys, you've been covering basketball all your life. Name one big free agent who's came to Sacramento.
[–]Lakers Skorua 1189 指標 19小時前
The fuck? Calling out Sacramento like this is lol
[–]bballplayer97 542 指標 19小時前
Damn did not know buddy was like this about business
[–][LAL] Magic Johnson fds_1 116 指標 17小時前
yeah, but I completely agree with him. I guess players have learned from the IT situation
[–]Wizards ireddit270 699 指標 17小時前
Iirc this dude grew up dirt poor , like literally. He sends a lot of his money straight back to the Bahamas so he can help uplift his hometown.
Goes to show you never know someone’s background and the type of fire they have inside . Hield had a breakout season and probably feels like he should be getting the Khris Middleton contract or close
[–][POR] Patty Mills shickard 136 指標 13小時前
Lately it seems like for every 1 fair contract there's 3 overpays. Buddy is elite at his role, which is more than the Middleton's and Tobias Harris's of the world can say, so honestly I do not blame him for looking around and saying why the fuck not me?
I hope Sac can keep him, I hope he can live with ~20M a year and not some other crazy high number. It would be a shame to see that team go through a rebuild and look so promising for it to fail over greed
[–]76ers Rockandrollracing 37 指標 12小時前
Are you saying that’s buddy being greedy for wanting more or team for not wanting to pay more?
[–]Celtics E10DIN 218 指標 12小時前
and look so promising for it to fail over greed
It's a job. He and every other player should get every dime they can.
[–]Joooseph2 68 指標 11小時前
Yeah if it’s for greed then the onus needs to be on the team owners lol. They’re the billionaires.
[–]Celtics E10DIN 51 指標 10小時前
Seriously. I hate that people ignore the reality that this is a job for these guys, and that they shouldn't take less money just because.
[–][SAC] Bogdan Bogdanovic redwashing 25 指標 15小時前
Trying to get max money you can get is something I completely agree with. I would never blame Buddy if he took a bigger contract somewhere else, everyone wants more return for their labor. The problem is he's pushing his teammates under the bus for leverage which I have a problem with. You can't publicly talk about how only shit FA's come to Sacramento just before the season starts when your team signed several FA's in the off season, no matter how right you are. This can fuck up the team chemistry in a big way.
[–]Bust ANupp 21 指標 13小時前
Barnes is the only one that chose to steal a bag from Sac. Every other player was drafted/traded and will see how they're treating a guy that's their best offensive threat currently, has never had locker room problems and is a genuinely good person. If they don't show they are willing to keep a team together then why would any of them try to stay?
[–]Wizards Vswerve27 223 指標 19小時前
I mean I also wouldn't want to be paying buddy hield a max for the next 4 years tbh. Tough position for them
[–]Knicks Fmbounce 200 指標 18小時前
So who would you rather pay? Just keep rolling the cap space until you find another lottery pick worth the max?
[–]Wizards Vswerve27 85 指標 18小時前
That's why it's a tough position. Buddy hield is probably not going to get significantly better than he is now and he's a very one-dimensional player.
To answer your question, I'd probably not pay him and try to trade him this season
[–]Spurs HereComesJustice 54 指標 17小時前
Small market teams have to overpay
[–]Suns Tailsofthesix 48 指標 17小時前
This dude averaged 20 ppg on 59ts%, while shooting 42% on 8 3's a game. How the hell is that not worth a max?
[–]Canada igot2pair 12 指標 12小時前
People are really underrating him. I can see him averaging even more next year. Def max imo. Easy decision especially when he's coming off the contract fox and bags will get maxed too. Top 3 three point shooter in high volume?
[–]NBA TheAmbitious1 57 指標 19小時前
What the hell lmao, why would they be idiots to not sign Buddy fucking Hield to the max.
This is the same reasoning that got guys like Wiggins massive deals. Because Minny would have been idiots to let their number 1 overall pick walk
[–]76ers Corsques 20 指標 19小時前
[–]Supersonics Soychemtrails 2491 指標 18小時前
Holy shit. Buddy is out for blood
[–]Kings BloodT1nted 806 指標 17小時前
He's right though. I get our front office probably prefers Bogdan but we really need to keep everyone we can.
[–]NBA scratchy09 552 指標 16小時前
Why though? Buddy is superior compared to Bogdan.
[–]BluefaceBabyYeaAight 434 指標 16小時前
Because it's the Kings
[–]Lakers fuckthenbamods3 226 指標 16小時前
Isn't Buddy better? Like he was legit the 2nd best 3-point shooter in the NBA after Steph. I feel like that's some insane value, he's still only 26.
[–]Avalonanon 50 指標 13小時前
our front office probably prefers Bogdan
We traded DeMarcus Cousins for Buddy plus picks. There’s no way they make that trade if you replace Buddy with Bogi.
[–]Raptors 3500fp 15 指標 11小時前
I think he just means that bogdan and vlade are both Serbian and have known each other forever
[–]Mavericks msterling2012 5 指標 10小時前
The only logical reason I can come up with would be if you view Bogdan as an option that can provide most of the things Buddy can, albeit at a slightly lesser level, at a much better value. Leaving the team with more cap flexibility to add depth to the roster.
But I mean I would much rather have Buddy and I dont really think $110M is really overpaying based on how well he played last year.
[–][CLE] Zydrunas Ilgauskas 19almonds 6 指標 10小時前
This. It’s every small market team’s business model.
A replacement level player at 4/30m is way more valuable than say Buddy at 4/110m. You just have to define value on the owners terms.
[–][SAC] Bogdan Bogdanovic redwashing 78 指標 15小時前
I don't think that's the case, FO wants to keep them both at as low a price as possible. This is just both sides trying to get leverage. What Buddy said is right and I fully support every player trying to get max money they can get but he shouldn't have said all these publicly just before the season, it will hurt team chemistry.
[–]Bust ANupp 49 指標 13小時前
He already stated he was willing to take less than the max, the kings are going to ruin a good thing if they don't offer it already. They should have never resigned Barnes to that contract. Buddy has always been a stand up guy, works his ass off and has continued to improve. There will be other teams that want a SG that shoots 42% from the 3pt line and the Kings will have to match a max offer if they want to keep him.
[–][SAC] Bogdan Bogdanovic redwashing 37 指標 13小時前
I fully agree FO needs to pay him and if Buddy leaves it's 100% management's fault. Signing Barnes doesn't prevent the team from giving Buddy ehat he wants either. I don't have a problem with Buddy demanding to be paid. Going to media for leverage is problematic but I can understand to a degree. What I don't like is throwing teammatea under the bus for leverage. Your problem is with the FO, go after them not FA's who signed to be your teammates.
[–][POR] Patty Mills shickard 174 指標 13小時前
And here I was thinking lolkings had been replaced by lolwiz. Oh well, least we'll always have lolknicks. No matter what, we'll always have lolknicks.
[–]GuacKiller 9 指標 11小時前
We lol Divac, but he’s made mostly the right decisions.
[–]Knicks zwickksNYK 39 指標 11小時前
lolsuns would be the most appropriate replacement in my opinion.
[–]Thunder Gamerghost44 13 指標 10小時前
Yeah but with Booker and Ayton they at least have talent to enjoy.... Until they inevitably leave.
[–][ATL] Lou Williams TraeYoungsBaldSpot 120 指標 10小時前
This whole thread forget about the Hornets, making lolhornets even more viable
[–][LAC] Chris Kaman nutella4eva 76 指標 8小時前
We were talking about basketball teams though.
[–]Celtics cwdwdy 12 指標 8小時前
[–]Spainbinary_spaniard 7 指標 7小時前
English is not my native language, what's a Hornet?
[–][ATL] Lou Williams TraeYoungsBaldSpot 10 指標 6小時前
A really shitty basketball team
[–]kobmug_v2 60 指標 19小時前*
I see no lies, unfortunately for him it doesn't change his situation.
Due to his age (Buddy is going to be almost 28 at the start of the 2020-21 season) this is probably going to be the only big contract of his career and the Kings have all the negotiating leverage.
[–]Bilbo Bagher 964 指標 19小時前
The Buddy sweepstakes have begun
[–]Flare_Nsfw 136 指標 19小時前
[–]IguessthatsAname 6 指標 11小時前
He'd be an amazing mid season pickup for any team playing for a title.
[–]Supersonics IndianaGnomes 862 指標 17小時前
Buddy Hield was a 4 year college guy. He'll be 27 in December. This is likely the only chance he'll ever have at a max contract. Yeah, you better be ready to pay up.
[–][SAS] Boban Marjanovic maestroenglish 290 指標 16小時前
Max for buddy? Glad Spurs don't have these worries.
[–]junkit33 34 指標 13小時前
If you’re Sacramento you pay it. Better to overpay a good player than lose him over a few million dollars. It’s not like they’ll do anything else amazing with that money.
[–]Supersonics IndianaGnomes 222 指標 15小時前
Considering how weak the upcoming free agent class is, if the Kings don't, there's a decent chance someone else might.
[–]Heat jbenson255 42 指標 14小時前
Yeah i really think this idea that small market teams have to overpay because “who else is going to come” is so bad and why they never succeed
[–]Bust ANupp 334 指標 13小時前
He shot 42% in 2018 and 43% in 2017 from 3, he's going to get a max from someone.
[–][NYK] Anthony Mason BlueHundred 217 指標 12小時前
on high volume too. he deserves it
[–]Mavericks DirkNowitzkisWife 71 指標 12小時前*
A guy like Buddy Hield (a competitor) probably says “I scored 21 a game on 43% from 3 and good defense, I’m as good as Klay Thompson.” And just based off last year, would that be that ridiculous a thing to say? I know the Kings don’t want to pay him 30 million a year, especially with Fox being eligible for an extension after this season.
The Kings are in an okay spot. Joseph and Dedmon’s contracts are up in 2022; and Joseph’s isn’t fully guaranteed.
But still, I would imagine that Fox and Hield want max money, and Bogdan feels like he deserves something close to that, and eventually Bagley will need a new contract. And when you’re paying 4 guys $100 million, your hope I think is 2 of them are all stars and one is an MVP candidate. That’s what it takes these days to be a contender, and when you cap yourself out with 4 guys or so, you’re certainly hoping for a deep playoff run.
[–]Joooseph2 43 指標 10小時前
What even is this comment lmao. Nearly every competitive team is capped out on just a few players.
[–]Mavericks DirkNowitzkisWife 14 指標 10小時前
Not necessarily true. The Bulls’ 4 highest paid players make $70 million. The Clippers are at $91 million. Even the Bucks are at $88 million. That’s two contenders, and another team I just pulled out of my ass. The Brooklyn nets are at $88 million. Pistons are at $90 million. There are not a ton of teams out there in which 4 players take up $100 million plus.
[–]Bucks fwzy_34 8 指標 8小時前
Bucks have yet to sign Giannis with the supermax extension, that is why they are at 88.
[–]Warriors ricklegend 11 指標 10小時前
What about Chris Webber?
[–][MEM] Zach Randolph Jakelshark 7 指標 7小時前
He was traded there against his will (but willingly signed a new contract a few years later during the King's brief title contention window)
[–]Kings SolarOandM 65 指標 18小時前
Yeah, Webber wasn’t a FA signing, but he was in an identical situation to buddy and he re-signed for 7 years. Bibby re-signed after a trade too.
[–]goblinsholiday 19 指標 12小時前*
Can someone list all the teams that have never signed a significant free agent?
Sacramento, Toronto, Memphis, Charlotte, Dallas...
[–]Grizzlies shmoongng 40 指標 12小時前
Umm I think you’re forgetting the marquee free agent chandler parsons we signed
[–]Grizzlies freakman013 15 指標 12小時前
And Allen Iverson. Two high profile free agents.
[–]itsme32 668 指標 19小時前
The best player to have signed with Sacramento is Vlade Divac himself so makes me wonder of Buddy knows this and is throwing shade at Vlade.
[–]Bulls dylansanroman 25 指標 8小時前
You would be surprised. Outside of the coastal teams, big free agent signings dont happen too often in the NBA. Chicago's best is probably Ron Harper, Orlando - Horace Grant, Denver - Paul Millsap, Grizzlies - tony allen, Charlotte - Al Jefferson, Toronto - jose calderon.
Free agents dont often seem to gravitate to franchises that aren't the Heat or the lakers.
[–][MEM] Zach Randolph Jakelshark 14 指標 7小時前
It didn't pan out of course, but Chandler Parsons was probably the biggest FA signing for the Grizz. He had at least two max offers from Grizz and Portland. Tony Allen was the most impactful UFA signing in franchise history though.
[–]Lakers Tweefin123 39 指標 18小時前
They shouldn't have paid Barnes
[–]Wizards Vswerve27 38 指標 18小時前*
Barnes is at least a solid player, I don't understand ariza for 25 million at all, he looked cooked last year. IMO they also overpaid for Cory Joseph and Dedmon. I really like Fox and Bagley but I don't think they're doing a good job building around them so far. I hope I'm wrong tho
[–]Kings thesuperjobber 22 指標 17小時前
Ariza doesn't make much sense given how terrible he was last season but at least his 2nd year is only 1.8 million guaranteed so it's not too painful in the long run.